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Meta AI leaders discussed temporarily licensing Google Gemini for their products
“The leaders of Meta's AI division Have instead discussed temporarily licensing Gemini to power the company's AI product.”
Haugen: Facebook VIP Cross-Check Whitelisted Users and Delayed Reviews Three Days
“In reality, because they weren't willing to spend a very small amount of budget, they didn't actually put that second check in for most safety systems. So for most safety systems, people got white listed. So if you were in cross check, the safety systems no lo…”
Prince: App stores and Facebook damaged the open web
“And the app store in some ways was an enormous threat to the web. Like it took people away from the web. It was probably one of the biggest, between it and Facebook were like the two biggest forces that really made the web less interesting.”
Kantrowitz: Top tech companies hold $3T in off-balance sheet AI commitments
“Nine, top tech companies had some three trillion dollars of off balance sheet commitments, mostly related to AI. Those obligations are growing faster than traditional capex, which totaled about six hundred billion over the past year past year they reported, an…”
Cahn: Meta's failure to compete shows OpenAI's talent strength
“If anything, Zuck's attempt to compete with OpenAI, and just the failure of that so far, just demonstrates how good the talent still at OpenAI is.”
Bosworth: Competitors like Apple, Google, and OpenAI lack complete stacks
“And I think it is the collection of all four of those things that we see as our superpower relative to the competitors, most of whom, whether it's Apple or Anthropic OpenAI or Google, only have one of those things.”
Bosworth: Meta emptied its AI research pipeline to build Llama 3
“When we were pulling Llama three together, we had really pulled in all the research, all the every, we pulled out every single stop we had and unwittingly kind of killed the pipeline. So researchers, you know, the way that it works is you build a base And you'…”
Meta risks becoming a legacy ad business like Yahoo if AI fails
“They got maybe a couple more shots at the AI getting this AI thing. Right. Other, other than that, they look like They look kind of like a potential Yahoo, right? Where like, they got advertising right, and it's the one thing they do right, and they're gonna l…”
Ramaswamy: Chinese open-source AI parity is a net positive for Western innovation
“So from a macro perspective, I would say that that is actually a positive because Mistral is going to figure out how to reverse engineer all of this stuff, stuff, and go one step forward, which will be good for Europe. And Reflection will figure out how to do …”
Kantrowitz: Meta will partner with Google or OpenAI on smart glasses
“Over the next year, you will see Meta bring in other AI models. You will see them partner with Google. You might see them partner with OpenAI.”
Luria: Meta used a Blue Owl SPV to finance data centers off-balance-sheet
“The other thing that happened with Meta that was interesting is that when they Went out to borrow. They didn't borrow the capital. They created a special purpose vehicle, right? They went out with Blue Owl and they said, you know, we'll put a couple of billion…”
Luria: OpenAI's $100 Billion 2027 Revenue Projection Is Completely Disingenuous
“So for them to say, oh, we're gonna have a hundred billion dollars of revenue by 2027, which Sam Altman just did, is completely disingenuous. He has no idea. He's competing against much bigger, more powerful companies that have technology that's at least as go…”
Kantrowitz: Zuckerberg Is Poaching Apple AI Talent Simply to Kneecap Them
“I think what Mark Zuckerberg is trying to do is just rate Apple of all of its top AI talent. Even though they haven't produced great results, He is, in my opinion, potentially just trying to completely kneecap its ability to execute on AI.”
Amodei: 'Pretty bearish' on Meta's aggressive AI talent poaching strategy
“I am pretty bearish on what they're trying to do.”
Kantrowitz: Zuckerberg Offered $32B for Safe Superintelligence and Was Rejected
“Zuckerberg tried to spend thirty two billion on Ilya Suskever's AI start, startup, safe super intelligence. Suskever ultimately turned Meta down.”
Kantrowitz: Regulators will likely break up Google and potentially Meta
“The vibe here is that we're going to see breakups very likely of Google and potentially of Facebook.”
LeCun: Chain-of-thought prompting does not produce genuine reasoning in LLMs
“One simple way of
getting NNMs to kind of appear to reason is chain of thought, right?
So you basically tell them to generate more tokens than they really need to in the hope that in the process of generating those tokens, they're going to devote more computa…”
Bosworth: Mobile Gatekeepers, Especially Apple, Stifle Meta's Application Development
“Strategically, we have just been at the mercy of platforms for since the start of the mobile era. And we were a web company, right? We were born of the web, and the web was this, like, amazing, unowned platform that you just, like really had a lot of control o…”
Pineau: Halting open-source AI now prevents developing vital model safety practices
“My worry about closing the doors down now is that the models are only getting better. And so if we don't release them now, we really miss an opportunity to develop the muscle we need to make these models safer. And I don't think today's model are the ones that…”
LeCun: Most core ChatGPT techniques originated at Google and Meta
“Most of the technology underlying techniques used in ChatGPT have been invented at Google and Meta.”
Haugen: Facebook's algorithm drove 65% of joins to German neo-Nazi groups
“In 2016, they found out that 65% of people who joined neo-Nazi groups in Germany, where they are illegal, like you can't have a neo-Nazi Facebook group in Germany, joined them because Facebook suggested that group to people.”
Haugen: Facebook's Average User Is Substantially Less Literate Than Twitter's
“I think the reason why Twitter did it and Facebook didn't was Facebook's average user is substantially less literate than Facebook, than Twitter's is.”
Haidt: Tech platforms cannot stop foreign disinformation without intelligence agency coordination
“Yes, of course they took some easy steps, but there is no way they can get a handle on this. This has to be, and I think they call it for this. This has to be a sort of a government-wide partnership between Coordinated between the CIA, the FBI, NSA, Facebook, …”
Wood: Social media retention relies on network effect inertia, not quality
“Look, I mean, people are hooked, right? And they're hooked because of the network effects. It's super, there's huge amounts of inertia. It's not that it's not that the product is necessarily is necessarily, like, so amazing that the individuals are using it pu…”
Chafkin: Mark Zuckerberg's politics prioritize Facebook's growth over authorities and rules
“I think he's a libertarian and I think, which I think, you know, a hundred percent influenced by Thiel there. But I also think to some extent he has no left right politics. His politics are Whatever is going to be required to allow Facebook to grow as big as p…”
Peter Thiel's rule-breaking ethos dominates Facebook and major tech companies
“That ethos, Thielism, if you want to call it that, is Basically the main ethos of Facebook, of, you know, of most of the bigger companies in Silicon Valley. This idea that the rules yeah, just aren't that important and maybe it's best to cast them aside from t…”
Ghonim: Social platforms adopted content moderation due to advertisers, not public pressure
“Facebook YouTube did not want to be the ministry of truth until the advertisers decided they're not happy. And then the ministry of truth was launched you know, which is fine. I mean, I guess I guess at the end of the day, it's their platform, but I'm just say…”
Kantrowitz: Meta Laying Off Workers to Fund AI Compute Is Unjustified
“I always find it a little bit rich when a ultra profitable publicly traded 1.5 trillion dollar company with massive margins is like, we need to find cost savings. I mean, I guess, like if you know, obviously it's important to perform for Wall Street, but I don…”
Kantrowitz: $27B in debt financing Meta's Hyperion project is off-balance sheet
“Meta's gigantic Hyperion data center project in Louisiana, which is the size of about 1700 football fields, helps explain how obligations wind up off tech companies' balance sheets. Though Meta is the builder, neither Hyperion nor the twenty-seven billion in d…”
Cahn: Meta and Google pursue AI because ad models face existential disruption
“Part of why I think Meta and Google are so all in AI is their businesses are the most at risk from AI. Like if we all move to ChatGPT, if we all move, if our time eyeballs move to these other interfaces, Then these ad driven businesses have a lot of questions.”
Roy: Meta capex figures exclude $46B in Hyperion SPV debt exposure
“Meta recorded 88.6 billion in capital expenditures, but that doesn't include the Hyperion SPV, which had its own forty six billion dollars of exposure.”
Kantrowitz: AI frontier intelligence will commoditize into a price war
“If you have five companies that have this level of intelligence, it's a price war. It commoditizes. So I think we should assume, and we've talked about this on the show, that intelligence is gonna commoditize.”
Bosworth: Future smart glasses will generate custom apps on the fly
“In the future, there's no reason that couldn't just be you wearing the glasses in real time, telling the glasses what app you want right now, and having it on the fly build that app for you.”
Bosworth: Meta added unlimited pausing and opt-outs to employee tracking program
“Unlimited pausing. People can opt out for a bunch of reasons. So like we've made a bunch of changes to the program for people who had concerns about it.”
Bosworth: The era of monolithic AI models ended around Llama 3
“The era of the monolithic model kind of died around Lama III launch. Like, the idea, like, here's one model, and just, like, let's just test how smart this model is, and that was how good it's going to be at lots of things. We're now in a world where when you'…”
Bosworth: Meta reassigned thousands of employees to generate AI training data
“We basically saw this huge opportunity, such a big opportunity that we pivoted kind of on a dime and brought a lot of people across the company, thousands of people out into this AAI organization to do these expert traces.”
Himel: Wearables will eventually become the best form factor for AI
“And we believe that wearables will be the best form factor eventually for the AI. Because they're always with you, they can see what you see, they can hear what you hear, and there's something you can talk to throughout the day when you need it, and they can b…”
Himel: AI wearables will fail without existing analog adoption habits
“If you don't see a lot of people doing that already with analog versions, I think it's unlikely that you're gonna see an AI version take off.”
Himel: Meta has not launched facial recognition on smart glasses
“We don't have a feature called that or that does that feature that's launched in the glasses.”
Meta lacks a competitive LLM and remains two generations behind in AI
“They don't have a competitive LM. And again, it's the same problem as Apple. They're now, you know, not one, but two generations behind what the cutting edge is.”
Demis Hassabis rejected higher Facebook offer because Mark Zuckerberg misunderstood AI's potential
“Facebook offered more money, but I wanted somebody who really understood why AI would be bigger than all those things. And then he sold to Google.”
Meta struggles to gain product traction organically without relying on external acquisitions
“They just, they don't have a good track record over the past decade plus of launching new things, obviously with the metaverse being, you know, the prime example, but several other projects, they had a crypto project DM and You know, they've had many, many oth…”
Meta delays flagship AI model after failing to outperform Gemini 2.5
“Meta's new foundational AI model, which the company has been working on for months, has fallen short on the performance leading AI models the performance of leading AI models from rivals like Google, OpenAI, and Anthropik. On internal testing, it is now delaye…”
Kantrowitz: Microsoft, Amazon, Apple, and Meta lack standout AI products
“What standout product does AI product does Microsoft have outside of selling AI services from Azure? What standout product does Amazon, AI product does Amazon have outside of selling some AI with AWS. What standout AI product does Apple have? We both know that…”
Intrator: CoreWeave signed a $14 billion contract with Meta
“Meta that we signed a fourteen billion dollar contract with”
Kantrowitz: Meta's Open Source AI Strategy Is Definitely Done
“I think they're not going to, their open source strategy is definitely done.”