o1

7 statements across 5 episodes · 4 bullish · 1 bearish · 6 people on the record · first statement Sep 13, 2024 by Alex Kantrowitz · said 3 times in 2 episodes since 2025 · across every show →

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Sep 13, 2024 positive
Assertion Supported
OpenAI o1 Benchmarks Show Major Gains Across Math, Coding, and Science
“So if you think about, ah, competition math, ah, GPT-IV-O was getting a 13.4 accuracy score on competition math. But this thing and the way that it can think through the different problems is getting 83.3, ah, score on accuracy. Ah, with competition math. So i…”
Alex Kantrowitz Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 1:41 Is OpenAI’s New “o1” Model The Big Step Forward We’ve Been Waiting For?
Sep 13, 2024 neutral
Assertion Supported
OpenAI Notably Avoided Using the Word 'Agent' in o1 Announcement
“Open AI hasn't actually used the word agent once in its announcement, and it doesn't sound like any of its scientists have talked about that either.”
Parmy Olson Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 21:49 Is OpenAI’s New “o1” Model The Big Step Forward We’ve Been Waiting For?
Sep 13, 2024 neutral
Assertion Supported
Kantrowitz: OpenAI's Blog Post States o1 Does Not Solve Hallucinations
“Yeah, and OpenAI even in its blog post says that it does not solve, this does not solve hallucinations, and then you can”
Alex Kantrowitz Sep 13, 2024 ▶ 24:49 Is OpenAI’s New “o1” Model The Big Step Forward We’ve Been Waiting For?
Dec 11, 2024 positive
Assertion Supported
Wang: China's DeepSeek produced the first replication of OpenAI's o1 model
“OpenAI released O-one and released the O-one preview a number of months ago... Yeah, this is OpenAI's advanced reasoning model, which is great at sort of scientific reasoning and mathematical reasoning and reasoning and code, et cetera. And the very first repl…”
Alexandr Wang Dec 11, 2024 ▶ 13:21 AI Predictions for 2025: Geopolitics, Agents, and Data Scaling — With Alexandr Wang
Jan 27, 2025 positive
Assertion Partly supported
DeepSeek used model distillation to match OpenAI's o1 at lower cost
“And, you know, they've just used the process of distillation to, you know, effectively bring those bigger versions of the sort of state-of-the-art models and distill them down into you know, smaller models, which eventually led to this R-one, you know, the equ…”
M.G. Siegler Jan 27, 2025 ▶ 12:00 How DeepSeek Changes AI Research & Silicon Valley w/ M.G. Siegler
Apr 23, 2025 bullish
Prediction Partly held up
Patel: GPT-5 will simultaneously scale pre-training and post-training reasoning
“And so now GPT-Five, as Sam calls it, is, is gonna be a model that has huge pre-training scale, right? Like GPT-Five, but also huge post-training scale, Like O-one and O-three and continuing to scale that up, right? This would be the first time we see a model …”
Dylan Patel Apr 23, 2025 ▶ 36:50 Generative AI 101: Tokens, Pre-training, Fine-tuning, Reasoning — With SemiAnalysis CEO Dylan Patel
May 7, 2025 bearish
Assertion Supported
Marcus: Models like o1 are not systematically better than GPT-4
“Models like O-I are not systematically better than GPT-IV. There's, they're better in certain use cases. Especially ones where you can create data in advance.”
Gary Marcus May 7, 2025 ▶ 11:46 Are We at the End of Ai Progress? — With Gary Marcus
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