Effective Altruism

18 statements across 6 episodes · 2 bullish · 6 bearish · 6 people on the record · first statement Oct 19, 2023 by Molly White · said 6 times in 1 episodes since 2024 · across every show →

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Oct 19, 2023 neutral
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Effective Altruism Philosophy Will Persist Even if the Movement Rebrands
“I think that even if effective altruism under that name does not continue to exist, I think the philosophy will.”
Molly White Oct 19, 2023 ▶ 38:43 SBF's Last Stand — With Molly White
Dec 4, 2023 bullish
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Sitaraman: Effective Altruism will retain strong influence in AI hiring and policy
“So you're probably going to hire a bunch of EA people and you're going to have to make them happy because they could leave at any time. Right there. There's huge competition for people who actually build these systems. So there's that, but then, you know, so t…”
Deepa Sitaraman Dec 4, 2023 ▶ 34:29 Silicon Valley's Effective Altruist vs. Accelerationist Religious War
Dec 4, 2023 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Sitaraman: Ilya Sutskever identifies as an AI safety advocate, not EA
“If you talk to people who know Ilya, he's like, I'm not EA, I'm AI safety.”
Deepa Sitaraman Dec 4, 2023 ▶ 24:07 Silicon Valley's Effective Altruist vs. Accelerationist Religious War
Dec 4, 2023 neutral
Opinion
Broderick: EA and e/acc differ primarily on timeframe, not ultimate goals
“I have not found much difference in what these two groups want, only the timeframe in which they want them to happen. It is, it, in my opinion, I have not seen enough difference between the two.”
Ryan Broderick Dec 4, 2023 ▶ 7:31 Silicon Valley's Effective Altruist vs. Accelerationist Religious War
Dec 4, 2023 neutral
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White: Effective Altruists favor slower, methodical AI development for safety
“Effective altruism is a group of people who believe in sort of doing as much good as possible with this sort of like data driven analysis approach... And why they have largely adopted this idea that although they think we should be developing artificial intell…”
Molly White Dec 4, 2023 ▶ 2:42 Silicon Valley's Effective Altruist vs. Accelerationist Religious War
Dec 4, 2023 negative
Opinion
Broderick: EA and e/acc share goals of wealth and anti-democratic thought
“They're not opposites in the sense that, like, EA are communists. Like, they're both pretty aligned on the idea of making as much money as humanly possible. They're both supported by a lot of anti-democratic thinkers. They're both sort of center to not maybe j…”
Ryan Broderick Dec 4, 2023 ▶ 19:45 Silicon Valley's Effective Altruist vs. Accelerationist Religious War
Dec 4, 2023 neutral
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Sitaraman: Anthropic screens job candidates for Effective Altruism culture fit
“There's a culture fit test. Like when you get hired where you're asked that, that as far as I understand, I don't have like the questions in front of me, but a lot of the questions are sound, they're basically trying to test whether or not you'd be EA enough. …”
Deepa Sitaraman Dec 4, 2023 ▶ 36:13 Silicon Valley's Effective Altruist vs. Accelerationist Religious War
Dec 4, 2023 negative
Opinion
White: Both EA and e/acc share a mythology about imminent godlike AI
“They both have this sort of mythology in their heads about this, you know, godlike AI being that is just around the corner.”
Molly White Dec 4, 2023 ▶ 30:12 Silicon Valley's Effective Altruist vs. Accelerationist Religious War
Dec 4, 2023 negative
Opinion
Broderick: Effective Altruists focus on AI risk because it makes good posts
“EA people should be, like, super into vaccinations or, like, preparing for the covid-twenty-four or whatever, but they've determined that it is the ultimate risk to humanity because it's exciting and interesting, and it, like, makes for a good post. And that i…”
Ryan Broderick Dec 4, 2023 ▶ 25:13 Silicon Valley's Effective Altruist vs. Accelerationist Religious War
Dec 4, 2023 neutral
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Sitaraman: All major AI labs officially denied being Effective Altruism-aligned
“For this story, we asked all the companies, by the way, if they agreed with characterization of them as EA or not, and all of the companies told us they are not EA aligned.”
Deepa Sitaraman Dec 4, 2023 ▶ 11:13 Silicon Valley's Effective Altruist vs. Accelerationist Religious War
Dec 4, 2023 negative
Insight
White: EA and e/acc rebrand Silicon Valley wealth accumulation as heroic
“Effective accelerationism and to an extent effective altruism are really just sort of a rebranding of a lot of the same philosophies that have existed in Silicon Valley for a long time where people really want to feel good about themselves. Like they're, you k…”
Molly White Dec 4, 2023 ▶ 18:40 Silicon Valley's Effective Altruist vs. Accelerationist Religious War
Dec 4, 2023 neutral
Assertion Contradicted
Broderick: The LessWrong forum birthed Effective Altruism and early neo-reactionism
“At the middle 2000, there was the rise of a very kind of niche, but influential message board and blog called less wrong and less wrong... Was the birthplace for several Sort of digital philosophies, online philosophies. So the big one is obviously effective a…”
Ryan Broderick Dec 4, 2023 ▶ 5:07 Silicon Valley's Effective Altruist vs. Accelerationist Religious War
May 9, 2024 neutral
Insight
Clark: AI Safety Talent Pool Heavily Overlaps With Effective Altruism
“Of the group of people in the world that have spent a long time thinking about AI, are really good at math and science, and have worried about some of the safety issues, there is a huge overlap with this community of people called effective altruists, and so s…”
Jack Clark May 9, 2024 ▶ 57:28 Anthropic's Co-Founder on AI Agents, General Intelligence, and Sentience — With Jack Clark
May 9, 2024 neutral
Disclosure
Clark: Anthropic is not driven by Effective Altruism ideology
“The organization is much more, Like oriented around trying to build some useful AI staff, prove that it works in the world and be very sort of pragmatic. We're not driven by some kind of like EA ideology. And in the early days we hired quite a few people from …”
Jack Clark May 9, 2024 ▶ 57:59 Anthropic's Co-Founder on AI Agents, General Intelligence, and Sentience — With Jack Clark
May 15, 2024 positive
Opinion
Effective Altruism deserves credit for an early focus on AI and pandemics
“I definitely think they've been, like, right on a lot of things, right in the sense of, like, this is a big focus, and they've realized it before a lot of other people. Like, this AI stuff, right? The EAs have been talking about this stuff for decades, and, li…”
Dwarkesh Patel May 15, 2024 ▶ 41:41 AI Scaling, Alignment, and the Path to Superintelligence — With Dwarkesh Patel
Aug 7, 2024 neutral
Disclosure
Bostrom: I have never described myself as an Effective Altruist
“So, I mean, I've never described myself As an effective altruism, I think my, ah, some of my ideas have had an influence there, and in particular yeah, try to think more about the sort of the macro strategic aspects of our strivings, as opposed to just the loc…”
Nick Bostrom Aug 7, 2024 ▶ 6:38 The Path to SuperIntelligence & Escaping the Simulation — With Nick Bostrum
Aug 7, 2024 negative
Insight
Bostrom: AI slowdown activism creates pressure to abandon open inquiry
“Once you start to engage in activism, then There is kind of mimetic pressures to simplify our message and to close ranks and to try to beat the people with opposing views down in the marketplace of ideas. and I think we are seeing some of the beginnings of th…”
Nick Bostrom Aug 7, 2024 ▶ 8:07 The Path to SuperIntelligence & Escaping the Simulation — With Nick Bostrum
Jun 18, 2025 negative
Opinion
Patel: Effective Altruism's Reputation Remains in Tatters
“I do think the movement and the reputation of the movement is like still in tatters.”
Dwarkesh Patel Jun 18, 2025 ▶ 1:02:18 Dwarkesh Patel: AI Continuous Improvement, Intelligence Explosion, Memory, Frontier Lab Competition
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