Epic Games, every mention
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every year anyone Benedict Evans 23Toni Cowan-Brown 1
Verbatim, from the transcripts: the passages where Epic Games comes up
Tiktok, Apple and Temu
- ▶ 0:30 Benedict Evans Two billion euros over Spotify, and also there's a bunch of to-ing and fro-ing over exactly how it implements the DMA and rules for third-party apps and Epic and web apps and so on.
- ▶ 5:45 Benedict Evans And the funny thing is, like, we had this argument, like, two years ago, or whenever it was, when Epic pulled their, their PR stunt of deliberately breaking Apple's rules and getting kicked out in Fortnite.
- ▶ 33:42 Benedict Evans We didn't even mention that Apple kicked Epic off the app store for about two days and then changed their mind. 3 times in the scene
Unbundling ChatGPT
- ▶ 19:15 Benedict Evans They're using, they, it's someone that they, you know, they, the Epic have sat down and built
ChatGPT versus Google
- ▶ 27:13 Benedict Evans I mean, this has always been Apple's strategic story is we have local, we have a lot of local compute in a completely different field in one of the, um, I think it was in the Epic lawsuit, there's this email from Craig Federighi came out…
The FTC's antitrust thesis
- ▶ 17:40 Benedict Evans But then the second point is if you look at, for example, the, the Apple epic thing is the decision, how should the Apple app store be run?
- ▶ 21:09 Benedict Evans Well, so, so, you know, this is sort of, you know, similar to some of the arguments that America has around what's in the, what's in the Constitution, what the Supreme Court could say, because I'll be treading carefully here, but there is…
Apple's metronome
- ▶ 10:06 Toni Cowan-Brown Okay, back to Epic Games.
- ▶ 17:08 Benedict Evans Second observation is we know from the disclosures in the Epic trial that about 80%, uh, so Apple did fifteen billion dollars. 4 times in the scene
Games and Roblox
- ▶ 8:13 Benedict Evans I mean, one of the sort of entertaining things in the Apple Epic lawsuit was, um, so Apple doesn't allow, now none of this will stand because all of Apple's rules are going to get overturned, um, in the next 18 months, but Apple doesn't… 3 times in the scene
- ▶ 22:54 Benedict Evans I, I know, if you say, I think, I think basically, I think that Spotlight is right and Epic is wrong in that, in that argument.
- ▶ 29:54 Benedict Evans What you see, so as part of the Epic trial, one part of the disclosure was an Apple presentation on, um, App Store Metrics in 2016.
Paying attention to Apple again
- ▶ 21:36 Benedict Evans You know, Apple likes to make the thing that they want the way they like it, and this is the thing that you're allowed to do with it, and if you can't build a business on that, well, fine, you can go somewhere else, and you see that with… 2 times in the scene
App stores: arguing like it's 2009
- ▶ 11:47 Benedict Evans This is what Epic discovered. 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 15:22 Benedict Evans You know, there's like a nightmare scenario, which is what Epic is arguing for.