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The spring updates on AI
- ▶ 28:41 Benedict Evans The App Store won.
A double episode: AI differentiation, and Apple does F1
- ▶ 2:42 Benedict Evans App Store ranking, or Google Trends, or usage data of any kind that you can get, and you see that basically it's ChatGPT, and then none of the others are more than five percent of that. 2 times in the scene
Ai eats the world
- ▶ 6:23 Benedict Evans Is this the app store or the iPhone or three G like what, what is, what line of kind of layers and building blocks are we looking at here?
Tiktok, Apple and Temu
- ▶ 0:07 Toni Cowan-Brown Apple is facing the European legislators again with the European Digital Market Act, specifically around the App Store.
- ▶ 8:31 Benedict Evans Apple actually implement this in the app store.
Apple's Vision Pro
- ▶ 7:06 Benedict Evans So, you know, I go in the App Store, I double tap the button on the top to buy it, and it's charged to my account, you know.
AI and Everything Else
- ▶ 10:05 Benedict Evans Like it's the difference between now you've got an iPhone and now you've got an app store, so there can be many more apps versus now that just the iPhone can just do any of it.
Threads
- ▶ 30:26 Benedict Evans Um, and the other thing that was sort of fascinating to touch on is, so if you go into the app store, um, Apple's app store now has these quote unquote sort of nutrition labels or health labels. 2 times in the scene
Buzzfeed News, Reddit and OpenAI
- ▶ 9:03 Benedict Evans And it's like, same thing with the app store. 4 times in the scene
GPT-4 is here, now what?
- ▶ 5:53 Benedict Evans And then ChatGPT has followed the standard enterprise software playbook and launched a plugin system and a developer toolkit, um, which again is like, you saw half the tech industry looks at this and goes, oh shit, they just launched an…
- ▶ 28:18 Benedict Evans So you can just, it's more like the app store, like the, all the API is already there.
The right questions to ask about TikTok
- ▶ 11:45 Benedict Evans You know, somebody pointed out a couple of, a week or two ago that like four of the top five free apps on the iOS app store were Chinese, and so it's TikTok, but it's also Shein and Temu and CapCut from memory, and so, okay, TikTok has got…
No Soup for You! Regulating tech M&A
- ▶ 30:59 Benedict Evans And, you know, you could make a similar point about the app store, which is, you know, if web three ever actually does happen and does become a thing, then that will profoundly challenge all sorts of assumptions about, first of all, about… 2 times in the scene
The FTC's antitrust thesis
- ▶ 9:14 Benedict Evans Um, of course that gets you into trouble where you, you have the EU saying that, that, that Apple has a monopoly on app stores on the iPhone, um, which is well, yeah, but like what problem are we, that's just a descriptive statement.
- ▶ 17:40 Benedict Evans But then the second point is if you look at, for example, the, the Apple epic thing is the decision, how should the Apple app store be run?
Three ways to say no
- ▶ 11:12 Benedict Evans So it tries to regulate Amazon and Airbnb and Uber and the App Store and a whole bunch of other stuff.
Netflix isn't a tech company
- ▶ 18:37 Benedict Evans In fact, the irony was, there's a story in the information this week, that Apple isn't collecting that, so that Apple's programming team have no idea what people are watching, because of the sort of fetish that Apple have for privacy,… 2 times in the scene
Talking about crypto
- ▶ 25:15 Benedict Evans Actually, what Apple does in the App Store now is, you know, you've got these icons that say this is the data it can access. 3 times in the scene
How to think about tech
- ▶ 18:20 Benedict Evans Yeah, and you got that with TikTok, and you got that exactly to your point with Shin, and suddenly you see it on the App Store chart, and you're like, what is that thing there, and why is it a bit, why is it ahead of Amazon in the App… 2 times in the scene
The Meta reality
- ▶ 30:01 Benedict Evans Apple's got a twenty-five billion dollar R&D budget, and then they've got the chips and the platform, the operating system, the app store, the whole ecosystem.
Apple's metronome
- ▶ 0:29 Benedict Evans And talk about the app store stuff, which is where it's interesting how confused it is, and then touch on the glasses and the car and the, you know, the thing that we've been speculating about for the last five years or 10 years.
- ▶ 10:09 Toni Cowan-Brown Versus Apple, what we should learn from the Apple Store, that story. 6 times in the scene
Games and Roblox
- ▶ 9:07 Benedict Evans The point is that Google doesn't allow Stadia onto the iOS App Store because they say, you know, we wanted one game to be one app, and we want to be able to review the games. 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 29:54 Benedict Evans What you see, so as part of the Epic trial, one part of the disclosure was an Apple presentation on, um, App Store Metrics in 2016. 3 times in the scene
Tech in china, from inside and outside
- ▶ 47:10 Benedict Evans Um, how big of a player is Apple in the App Store, and how big is it a participant in the Chinese ecosystem, or a determinant of the Chinese ecosystem? 3 times in the scene
Paying attention to Apple again
- ▶ 12:54 Benedict Evans And you see that like in the homepage of the app store is all about, you know, you should vote or, you know, support all sorts of different social issues are there in the app store. 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 20:19 Benedict Evans And so you have, this is sort of the great cookie apocalypse, as it's called, and you have Apple kind of driving this forward, and so Apple did the ATT thing, IDFA, no tracking in apps, no tracking through the App Store, no tracking in… 2 times in the scene
- ▶ 38:09 Benedict Evans The content you look at and use in stocks, the searches you do in the app store.
App stores: arguing like it's 2009
- ▶ 14:02 Benedict Evans And it's worth, worth understanding again, like when Apple launched the app store, I think they'd sold like a million iPhones in total. 3 times in the scene
- ▶ 21:16 Benedict Evans Um, I also think that it's very interesting to compare all of this with IDFA, wherein Apple is basically turning off the system that allows you to say, so IDFA is a system that says, you tapped on that link, it took you to the App Store,… 2 times in the scene
There's no such thing as data
- ▶ 32:22 Benedict Evans Yeah, I can sort of, or indeed the app store.
The history of doom-scrolling
- ▶ 23:16 Benedict Evans His app, hamburger dark kitchen app, went to the top of the US app store.
The paradox of Apple
- ▶ 13:10 Benedict Evans And so you will see like the whole sort of stalmanite wing of the tech industry who think it's not a proper computer because like there's an app store and it doesn't let me put whatever I want.
How do you destroy a tech monopoly?
- ▶ 27:56 Benedict Evans I mean, trying to cover how Amazon treats its suppliers, it's at the same time as dealing with how the app store works and what Google can add into search.