Mandia: Russian SVR doctrine shifted in August 2015 toward data leaks
Kevin Mandia · AI Expert: Agents Will Take Over Everything · Joe Lonsdale · Feb 4, 2026 · at 15:00
Kevin Mandia, founder of Mandiant, recounts how Russian foreign intelligence (SVR) cyber operations transformed their tradecraft in 2015.
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“I had 20 years of responding to SVR. They never hacked and then released data. They suddenly did that in August, They always hacked for security reasons, and all of a sudden we're responding to them hacking universities. I'm like, oh, they increased scope. And then they always did, in my opinion, admirable counter forensics. You're like, where are they? They're gone. They would always go away. It was almost like a gentleman's agreement. It caught us. We're out for a month. We'll be back at a month. But then they came relentlessly every day.”
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