Q Neither of them went to high school. You started working at age 11 or 12. How'd your upbringing shape you and help you become a leader?
A I learned, for example, one of the things I won't take a backseat to is judgment of people. I got a pretty good nose for people. That talent or that ability became conscious to me when I was a caddy. Huh. And I'd caddy for people. There were two types. There were guys that if they had a bad shot, they didn't blame it on anybody else for themselves. And there were guys that if they had a bad shot, they're looking around, who's around that I can blame? And typically the guy that gets the punishment is the caddy. The caddy, yeah. But I learned close up, because these guys, don't forget, they think we're just mechanical. We, we don't, oh, we don't evaluate, we don't observe, we don't do the things. I made it a point to studying The men I was caddying for, and how they behaved, and how they treated each other, and how they talked to each other, and how they treated the caddies. To this day, Joe, one of the things I love to do, um, if I'm being asked to evaluate somebody for a job at one of the companies, I like to take them to a meal. I love to watch how they interact with a waiter or the busboy. How do they talk to them?
AI assessment note: “That talent or that ability became conscious to me when I was a caddy.”