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“So you know, regulated industries are way behind. Even financial services, God forbid, Is a little bit further behind, ah, but you see other industries, ah, you know, retail is an example, pushing, you know, mobile decision making out to store managers who are…”

“Ah, instead we use, ah, color saturation as a mechanism of showing difference, because it turns out that color saturation is A much better example, much better way of seeing difference.”