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Netflix functions as a utility button, not a brand with emotional equity
“The Netflix brand doesn't mean anything to anyone. The Netflix brand is the button that I push on my TV when I want to watch stuff. And sometimes it's great stuff, but if it's not great stuff, whatever. It whizzes by. I don't think one way or another about Net…”
Nintendo's intellectual property rivals Pixar, Marvel, and Lucasfilm combined
“Nintendo is like Pixar, Marvel, and Lucasfilm combined. I mean, they have some of the very best IP in the entire world. They've got three franchises that can stand toe to toe with anything at Disney in Mario, Zelda, and Pokemon.”
Gilbert: 21st Century Fox Is Disney's Worst Major Acquisition
“But certainly it's the worst of the four big acquisitions, five if you include BamTech.”
Streaming's high-volume content firehose fundamentally breaks Disney's historical IP flywheel
“That whole strategy of a fire hose of content is completely orthogonal to the flywheel strategy of only the best content very infrequently.”
Ancillary products do not cannibalize core entertainment IP
“The beauty here and the discovery that Disney makes is that when you put the IP into these other ancillary nodes, it doesn't cannibalize the core IP.”
Animated IP outperforms live action in flywheel entertainment business models
“The IP that works best for Flywheel Dynamics almost has to be animated, i.e. Not live action, because with live action characters, the characters are too bound up in the actors that play them, and that creates all sorts of problems.”
YouTube's Annual Revenue Will Likely Surpass All of Disney in 2025
“So YouTube is already bigger than Disney's media business, and this year will likely become bigger than Disney's entire business.”
Gilbert: Disney+ series diluted the Marvel Cinematic Universe's stakes
“This is even ignoring the Disney Plus shows, some of which were very cool, Loki and WandaVision, but the existence of them by trying to be bigger and broader and more expansive even than the movies make the original universe feel unimportant.”
Steve Jobs demanded 100% of Pixar film profits in renegotiation with Disney
“He proposes a deal to Eisner, and this is where the relationship becomes irreparable. Pixar should actually be getting a hundred percent of the profits, not 50%, and they're now prepared to fund the budget themselves, too. Disney would just get a 10% distribut…”
Gilbert: Disney's historic profit eras were structural anomalies
“Disney's gonna be fine, and if managed very carefully, thrive. They're still gonna produce beloved characters and stories we all love, But the prosperity from the late nineties and the 2005 to 20 19 era, that was a complete anomaly due to how good all the stru…”
Rosenthal: Disney's Best Streaming Strategy Is to Be Number Two
“Yeah, I think Disney's best bet here is to be a clear number two.”
Gilbert: Disney should have paid far less for Lucasfilm than Marvel
“Turns out they should have paid well less than whatever they were willing to pay for Marvel, too.
Because Star Wars just didn't turn out to have that much more exploitation ahead of it.”
ESPN's cash flow fully funded Disney's Pixar, Marvel, and Lucasfilm acquisitions
“If you go line up those three acquisitions, which sound ludicrous on their price tags, especially when you didn't know how they were gonna pay off, Pixar at 7.4 billion, let's even include the cash in there, that's about two and a half years of cable's then pr…”
Rosenthal: Major entertainment franchises are unkillable like luxury brands
“I think these franchises, whether it's core Disney, Pixar, Lucasfilm, Marvel, are just like luxury brands. You cannot kill them. They will have uptimes and they will have downtimes, but they will always come back.”
Rosenthal: Traditional media companies except Disney are serfs to Netflix and YouTube
“All of these traditional media companies, with the exception of Disney, have basically all become kind of surfs in the streaming kingdoms of the technology companies, of which Netflix and YouTube are actually the winners here.”
Top weekly Disney+ movies are consistently Pixar and Disney Animation
“We've heard that the vast majority of the top 15 movies viewed every week on Disney Plus are either Pixar or Disney Animation. Not live action, not Star Wars, not The Avengers. The stuff that kids watch over and over. And those Disney animation movies are all …”
Disney secretly formed Circle 7 Animation to make Pixar sequels without Pixar
“Disney actually does start a new studio inside the company called Circle Seven Animation. That will be tasked with developing, right away, Toy Story III, Monsters, Inc. II, and Finding Nemo II.”
Rosenthal: Disney Retained Fox Assets Generated Nowhere Near $44B in Value
“And they probably don't get anywhere near forty four billion dollars worth of value out of the assets that they do get.”
Kay Kamen was Disney's third most important historical business figure
“There is a real case to be made that besides Walt and Roy and I works too, but at least on the business side, besides Walt and Roy, Kay Kamen was the third most important person in the first, you know, half century of Disney.”
Disney and Nintendo could only work together via an acquisition
“I kind of suspect the way that a relationship between Disney and Nintendo, the only way it could work would be if one of them buys the other.”
Disney merchandise royalties surpassed film rental revenue by 1934
“It wasn't even by the late 19 thirties. It was 1934.”
The NFL traded NFL Network to ESPN for a 10% equity stake
“So August, 20, 25, the NFL reached a deal with Disney and ESPN to essentially sell the NFL network, the NFL's cable network and the NFL's official fantasy app to ESPN for a 10% equity stake in all of ESPN in return for this swap.”
Gilbert: Disney's stock price in 2026 is flat compared to 2015
“Disney's stock price today is what it was then. Yep. It's gone up and down, but it is flat to 11 years ago.”
Disney incurred approximately $13 billion in cumulative operating losses building streaming
“Cumulatively, there were thirteen billion dollars or so of losses that Disney incurred in building it out in that segment.”
Rosenthal: Sports content cannot build compounding value like Disney's flywheel
“Sports have a very limited shelf life. You are not going back and watching Manning cast episodes from last season. The flywheel does not apply here. So you can't build long-term value around that original content.”
Gilbert: ESPN generates three billion dollars annually in operating income
“Yeah, it's a declining asset that does three billion dollars a year now in operating income.”
Gilbert: Original Pixar films have set no box office records in a decade
“If you look at the new Pixar films developed in the last 10 years, nine, 10 years, none of them have set new records. The only record setters and real smash hits are these sequels.”
Rosenthal: Bass family was forced to liquidate $2B in Disney shares
“In the days after September 11th, they face a margin call on their other investments. They have to become forced sellers of two billion dollars worth of Disney shares, which puts even further downward pressure on the Disney stock, which has already just fallen…”
Gilbert: Every Disney box-office hit after 2016 harvested existing IP
“Everything I can think of that did big dollars after 2016 at the box office, and I picked 2016 because that's when Moana and Zootopia came out. Everything after that that was big box office for the company is harvesting existing IP.”
Gilbert: Disney will set an all-time net income record in 2026
“But I think in 20, 26, it's looking like they'll set a brand new net income record ever based on the way it's trending.”
Gilbert: Toy Story was the first non-Disney animated blockbuster
“It made twenty-nine million in its opening weekend, went on to become the number one film in the U.S., and it was the first ever animated film That was a blockbuster that was not created by Disney.”
Gilbert: Disney committed $60B over a decade to parks and cruises
“So in 2023, they announced That they're investing sixty billion dollars of capital expenditures over the next decade into parks and cruises.”
Rosenthal: Disney grew market cap from $50B to $200B from 2005-2015
“Disney's market cap is up four X to two hundred billion dollars up from the fifty billion dollars when Bob took over. Overall revenue grows from thirty two billion to fifty two billion. Operating income goes from 4.7 to 14.7 billion.”
Rosenthal: Disney Merged Fox India Assets with Reliance at Huge Markdown
“Those assets end up not performing for Disney nearly as well as they thought they would. They end up merging them with Reliance in twenty-twenty-four in a deal that values them at only a fraction of what they value them in the Fox acquisition.”
Rosenthal: Disney operates in 20-year cycles and could peak in a decade
“It goes in 20 year cycles, and I wouldn't be surprised if it's back on top of the world in another 10 years.”
By 2015, Disney generated over $50B annually in gross retail merchandise sales
“By 2015, Disney is doing over fifty billion dollars a year in gross sales at retail of merchandise up almost two X over the past five years.”
Gilbert: Netflix, YouTube, and Disney Generate Hollywood's Major Profits
“If you just do the very simple exercise of looking who generates profits in the movie TV Hollywood landscape right now, it is Netflix, YouTube, and Disney generating the large profit streams.”
Gilbert: Poor animation quality creates delayed financial fallout for Disney
“Because they don't make most of their money from actual profits at the box office when the movie comes out the first time, There's a delayed impact to animation sucking that doesn't show up in the financials until way later.”
Rosenthal: Disney and Pixar sold 65 million copies of Finding Nemo DVD
“Disney and Pixar would sell 65 million copies of the Finding Nemo DVD, all told, you know, across all, all timeframe.”
Animated IP has superior economics because characters require no profit share
“There really is something unique about animated IP in its timelessness, in the ever availability of its stars, in the better economics of not having to share too much on the back end or in merchandising fees, et cetera, with stars.”
Disney operates at the intersection of art, commerce, and engineering
“What's happening at Disney isn't just the intersection of art and commerce. It's the three-way intersection of art and commerce and engineering and always has been.”
Frequent studio ownership turnover prevents multi-decade IP compounding games
“And Disney is playing a many decade compounding game, which can take three decades to really kick in. And all these other studios change ownership every decade. And so there's really not the right, like, ownership incentive structure to play a three-decade gam…”
Mickey Mouse watch sold 2.5 million units and saved Ingersoll Watch Company
“In 1933, right after he takes over, he does a deal with the Ingersoll watch company to manufacture the famous Mickey Mouse watch. That watch would sell two and a half million units over the next two years. The Ingersoll watch company was about to go bankrupt d…”
Historical film box office split was 65% theater, 22% studio
“65% actually gets retained at the exhibitor, or the theater. 13% goes to the distributor, and 22% goes to the studio.”
Kay Kamen grew Disney merchandise to $70 million in gross annual sales
“Within six months, Kay takes Disney merchandising from this hodgepodge of random licenses of guys that Walt met on the street... To a real professional operation doing six million dollars of gross merchandise sales within six months. That then grows over the n…”
The Mickey Mouse Club surpassed Boy and Girl Scouts combined
“Pretty quickly, there are eight hundred Mickey Mouse clubs across the country with more than one million total members. That is more members than the Boy and Girl Scouts of America combined at this point in time.”
Only Extreme-Scale Brands Can Profitably Bypass Traditional Distribution Channels
“There is this tipping point where a brand becomes the scale player. Like, think about Disney in media. They've become the scale player. They can run a different playbook and go directly to customers in a way where other places that make content need to integra…”