Morris Chang: Non-executive chairmen should only intervene if the company risks collapse
Morris Chang · TSMC founder Morris Chang · Acquired · Jan 27, 2025 · at 57:50
Morris Chang discusses his governance philosophy when stepping back from CEO to chairman at TSMC while Rick Tsai was CEO.
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“My principle, when I was, ah, The chairman and not the CEO, ah, was, well, sometimes you have to let the CEO make his own mistakes and learn from them, you know. Ah, of course, ah, not if the whole company is going down the drain, drain, so you have to interfere then, but only then.”
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