Microsoft, every mention
21 scenes (said by Brendan Eich), the whole family · ← back to Microsoft
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Verbatim, from the transcripts: the passages where Microsoft comes up
The Browser (with Brendan Eich, Chief Architect of Netscape + Mozilla and CEO of Brave) · Acquired
- ▶ 18:40 Brendan Eich Microsoft had simply killed Netscape by bundling IE, which it copied and sort of acquired pieces of through Spyglass.
- ▶ 18:51 Brendan Eich So the first version was not real, and the second version was kind of a joke, and the third version was starting to tell you where it could get to, and the fourth version was quite good on Windows, pretty much only on Windows.
- ▶ 19:02 Brendan Eich Meanwhile, they were bundling it with Windows, uh, 95 and then 98, and they got convicted in the USB-Microsoft case for this because it's not illegal to acquire Monopoly through, let's say, Merit or a sweetheart deal with IBM to be the OS…
- ▶ 19:17 Brendan Eich I don't know why IBM gave Microsoft that.
- ▶ 19:21 Brendan Eich They had the Windows Monopoly, but what they did in tying the browser to it and threatening Compaq with revocation of the Windows license if
- ▶ 19:21 Brendan Eich They had the Windows Monopoly, but what they did in tying the browser to it and threatening Compaq with revocation of the Windows license if
- ▶ 19:31 Brendan Eich Compact Shift Netscape as the default browser was illegal, and they got convicted for it.
- ▶ 22:52 Brendan Eich And they threw it away or kind of threw most of it away and did a Windows only
- ▶ 25:24 Brendan Eich And through an enormous stroke of luck, Mitch Kapoor, who founded Lotus one, two, three, and has his own experience with Microsoft's tricks, was friends with Ted Leonsis, one of the AOL executives.
- ▶ 29:23 Brendan Eich I had to recruit Ben Goodger out of Netscape to take over for Blake, and that went from Firefox, 0.6 on to one oh, and Ben did a lot of the important work on add-ons and search integration and making it really sing on Windows.
- ▶ 29:44 Brendan Eich But they didn't care about Windows.
- ▶ 41:22 Brendan Eich Microsoft had woken up and was doing IE and finally did Edge, and this was before they switched Edge to be based on Chromium.
- ▶ 41:29 Brendan Eich They were certainly still distributing it on Windows.
- ▶ 41:29 Brendan Eich They were certainly still distributing it on Windows.
- ▶ 41:32 Brendan Eich They were kind of tying it, and I would say it's gotten worse.
- ▶ 41:35 Brendan Eich Windows 10 and 11 have gotten even more aggressive, though they backed off on one
- ▶ 41:41 Brendan Eich They're saying, hey, you're not using Edge.
- ▶ 46:00 Brendan Eich And you're seeing others jump in with DuckDuckGo always had a more private sort of search front end on Bing.
- ▶ 46:06 Brendan Eich It's pretty much Bing still for the keyword search.
- ▶ 1:14:32 Brendan Eich Whereas Bing does and DuckDuckGo and others in Yandex do search deals with browsers, uh, even if they're not the default, they'll pay for traffic.
- ▶ 1:37:36 Brendan Eich Edge is somewhat privileged in Windows, which is a little hard on us.