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TSMC founder Morris Chang · Acquired
- ▶ 1:11:33 Morris Chang All right, so Jeff Williams came.
- ▶ 1:11:44 Morris Chang And, uh, you know, they, Jeff was a pretty straightforward person.
- ▶ 1:13:08 Morris Chang Because, uh, almost, uh, Jeff, uh, almost, uh, immediately started, uh, his pitch, you know.
- ▶ 1:13:23 Ben Gilbert And what is the pitch from someone like Jeff Williams like?
- ▶ 1:13:41 Morris Chang That, that night, I think, Jeff talked, uh,
- ▶ 1:14:08 Ben Gilbert And Jeff had proposed economic terms at this first dinner, right?
- ▶ 1:16:54 Ben Gilbert So after November of 2010, you had the initial conversation with Jeff Williams.
- ▶ 1:17:00 Morris Chang He said that he would let us at 40%, and my thought was, my goodness, you know, we're already at 45%, you know.
- ▶ 1:17:08 Morris Chang Uh, but I also thought that he was trying to be generous when he said that he would let us at 40%, and I also thought to myself, well, uh, now it's not this,
- ▶ 1:18:02 Morris Chang Ah, 20, he said.
- ▶ 1:18:26 Morris Chang Now, Apple, Jeff Williams, wanted 20.
- ▶ 1:31:11 Morris Chang Apple, myself, and talked to Jeff Williams.
- ▶ 1:31:17 Morris Chang So I said to him, we have to issue corporate bonds.
- ▶ 1:31:34 Morris Chang Now he, he was, uh, very, uh, very quiet about it.
- ▶ 1:31:42 Morris Chang He only made one suggestion.
- ▶ 1:31:43 Morris Chang He said, well, I think you can eliminate your dividend.
- ▶ 1:32:25 Morris Chang Jeff Williams said, oh, a stock is going to drop like hell, you know.
- ▶ 1:32:33 Morris Chang but, um, ah, when I talked to, to Jeff Williams, uh, and I, I went to see him in, uh,
- ▶ 1:32:48 Morris Chang Uh, I mean, he was, uh, he took it, uh, fairly willingly, you know.
- ▶ 1:32:57 Morris Chang The only suggestion that he made was, uh, the elimination of dividend, you know, and I said, no.
- ▶ 1:33:08 Morris Chang And, uh, he, he then let it just, uh, uh,
- ▶ 1:36:28 Morris Chang All right, but I think that, uh, the financial discussion with Apple had already happened when Apple, when Jeff Williams called me in February of two, we're talking about two, 11, yeah, and he said, ah, it was a very short conversation.
- ▶ 1:37:49 Morris Chang I mean, uh, in February, uh, of two or 11, Jeff Williams was talking about
- ▶ 1:39:42 Morris Chang Uh, uh, anyway, so, so, uh, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I of course had to accept, uh, Jeff Williams' request.
- ▶ 1:40:57 Morris Chang But, ah, then indeed, and I also thought that when, when Jeff Williams told me the highest level of Intel, I thought he was talking about,
- ▶ 1:41:56 Morris Chang So a month passed, uh, I think was, uh, about the middle of February when Jeff called to tell me to pause for two months.
- ▶ 1:42:28 Morris Chang So I emailed Jeff and asked for an appointment as I was coming to the Silicon Valley anyway, which was pretty normal.
- ▶ 1:42:50 Morris Chang And, uh, Jeff, uh, replied by saying that, uh, yeah, come here, but I won't be here.
- ▶ 1:43:02 Morris Chang I mean, this freedom, Jeff's freedom of delegating his boss
- ▶ 1:43:24 Morris Chang But, ah, but in this case, it was Jeff S.
- ▶ 1:44:22 Morris Chang Subconsciously, I think, I interpreted Jeff's, ah, explanation to me to be the third one, customer trust, you know.
- ▶ 1:47:18 Morris Chang Prizing, and Jeff came himself, and, um, we talked about pricing, and we, of course, we had done our homework also on the cost, and, uh, what, what, what kind of price we would accept.
- ▶ 1:47:41 Morris Chang But, uh, Jeff came and, uh, he told us just a number, you know.
- ▶ 1:47:58 Morris Chang But anyway, um, that was settled, and Jeff said, ah, and when, when the pricing was settled,
- ▶ 1:48:18 Morris Chang And Jeff jokingly said, ah, if you didn't like the pricing, we will be, we'll probably could be going to a McDonald's.
- ▶ 1:53:06 Morris Chang That was, so I emailed Jeff Williams right away, ah, and in, I said, you know, ah, we, we invested in all these equipment, and we were counting on you to take the, ah,
- ▶ 1:53:38 Morris Chang So, um, Jeff replied immediately.
TSMC · Acquired
- ▶ 1:38:20 Ben Gilbert And I think the Apple rep on that was Jeff Williams, the classic Tim Cook's Tim Cook.
- ▶ 1:39:47 Ben Gilbert Apple was relying on a company that was then seen as an also-ran, and the quote is, I think this is actually Jeff Williams, if we were to bet heavily on TSMC, there would be no backup plan.