Matt Perault

Head of AI Policy, Andreessen Horowitz · 1 appearance on the record.

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Matt Perault is the Head of AI Policy at Andreessen Horowitz and a Senior Fellow at NYU's Center on Technology Policy. He previously directed the Center on Technology Policy at UNC-Chapel Hill and served as a Director of Public Policy at Facebook.

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1 prediction · 3 assertions · 3 opinions · 2 insights · 1 what if · every statement was checked. The prediction and assertions are the 4 claims: statements the public record can support or contradict. 2 are resolved, and 2 name no date, number or outcome precise enough to check. Everything else (opinions, insights, what ifs, disclosures) can never be settled by the record, so it carries no assessment.

The record, in short

What the tape says about how Matt argues and how the claims held up. Everything they said, and everything said about them, is in the tabs below.

Their most notable supported claim

Assertion Supported
Perault: Government and industry previously proposed nuclear-style licensing for AI models
“There were ideas being proposed by not just the government, but industry to require a license. To build frontier AI tools and for it to be regulated like nuclear energy.”
Matt Perault Sep 8, 2025 ▶ 17:54 The Little Tech Agenda for AI

Their most notable contradicted claim

Assertion Contradicted
Perault: No major state-level AI regulation laws have passed to date
“There were a number of laws introduced at the state level In the, in, in this past year's legislative sessions that we thought had a strong likelihood of passing. And I think to date, none of them have passed.”
Matt Perault Sep 8, 2025 ▶ 51:52 The Little Tech Agenda for AI

Expressed certainty vs assessment result

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How they sound: speaking style how? →

273 words/min while actually speaking · 11.4 um and uh per 1k words · 15.4 false starts per 1k · 32.7% of pauses land inside a clause

No argument clarity score for Matt Perault: no usable question→answer exchanges on raw tape (a fair score needs 8+). We do not score a sample that small. Roundtable and news formats yield far fewer direct exchanges than interviews.

Measured by listening to the audio itself: 5,109 words across 1 episode of raw-level tape, transcribed verbatim with every um and uh kept, each one attributed only where the alignment onto our timed stream is unambiguous. These are measurements of speaking style. We do not rank them: across this corpus, fluency and argument quality are nearly uncorrelated (ρ≈0.2), and smooth talking does not signal clear thinking. How it's measured →

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What-if
Perault: Proposed AI regulations would have entrenched market incumbents and stifled startups
“Many of the politicians who are put, were pushing concepts that would have really put a stranglehold, I think, on AI startups and would have led to more monopolization of a market that already tends toward monopoly because of the high barriers to entry already…”
Matt Perault Sep 8, 2025 ▶ 24:08 The Little Tech Agenda for AI
Insight
Perault: Regulate AI applications and use, not underlying model development
“Regulate use. Do not regulate development.”
Matt Perault Sep 8, 2025 ▶ 9:09 The Little Tech Agenda for AI
Assertion Supported
Perault: Government and industry previously proposed nuclear-style licensing for AI models
“There were ideas being proposed by not just the government, but industry to require a license. To build frontier AI tools and for it to be regulated like nuclear energy.”
Matt Perault Sep 8, 2025 ▶ 17:54 The Little Tech Agenda for AI
Opinion
Perault: Proposed AI regulations burden startups without actually protecting consumers
“Licensing, nuclear style regulation like flops, threshold based disclosures, really complicated transparency regimes, impact assessments, audits, which are a bunch of ideas that we think are not going to help protect people and are going to make it really hard…”
Matt Perault Sep 8, 2025 ▶ 32:06 The Little Tech Agenda for AI
Insight
Perault: Economic evidence shows market licensing regimes typically suppress competition
“I don't think there's much economic evidence that licensing is pro-competitive. It typically is the opposite.”
Matt Perault Sep 8, 2025 ▶ 24:28 The Little Tech Agenda for AI
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Perault: Existing criminal and civil laws already cover most real-world AI harms
“And again, and most of the things that people are most concerned about, like real, real use of the technology for clear cognizable real world harm existing law typically covers it.”
Matt Perault Sep 8, 2025 ▶ 26:47 The Little Tech Agenda for AI
Opinion
Perault: Governing AI markets and development is primarily the role of Congress
“Governing a national AI market and governing AI development, we think is primarily Congress's role.”
Matt Perault Sep 8, 2025 ▶ 47:34 The Little Tech Agenda for AI
Opinion
Perault: Proposed state AI laws likely exceed constitutional dormant commerce clause limits
“At least for some of the proposals that have been introduced, it's likely that they won't, that the benefits are Somewhat diminished relative to what the proponents think they are and that the costs are significant”
Matt Perault Sep 8, 2025 ▶ 49:23 The Little Tech Agenda for AI
Assertion Contradicted
Perault: No major state-level AI regulation laws have passed to date
“There were a number of laws introduced at the state level In the, in, in this past year's legislative sessions that we thought had a strong likelihood of passing. And I think to date, none of them have passed.”
Matt Perault Sep 8, 2025 ▶ 51:52 The Little Tech Agenda for AI
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Perault: Tech industry alignment on AI policy will fracture further in coming months
“I think, I hope it's not the case, but I think there might be more fracturing in the months ahead.”
Matt Perault Sep 8, 2025 ▶ 56:21 The Little Tech Agenda for AI

Appearances (1)

EpisodeDateSpeaking time
The Little Tech Agenda for AI Sep 8, 2025 23m
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