Katie Haun

Founder & CEO, Haun Ventures · 5 appearances on the record.

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Katie Haun is the founder and CEO of Haun Ventures, a venture capital firm investing across digital assets and web3. Previously, she served as a general partner at Andreessen Horowitz and spent over a decade as a U.S. Department of Justice federal prosecutor leading cyber and crypto investigations.

46statements → 37claims → 33claims resolved → 70%fully supported → 4.06/5average certainty → 2.24/5average debate potential → ≈4.5/5argument clarity, estimated → 11said about them ↓

23 supported 9 partly supported 1 contradicted 11 not checkable as stated how the 37 claims stand · each chip opens the sources

8 predictions · 29 assertions · 4 opinions · 3 insights · 1 disclosure · 1 what if · every statement was checked. The predictions and assertions are the 37 claims: statements the public record can support or contradict. 26 are resolved, and 11 name no date, number or outcome precise enough to check. Everything else (opinions, insights, what ifs, disclosures) can never be settled by the record, so it carries no assessment.

The record, in short

What the tape says about how Katie argues and how the claims held up. Everything they said, and everything said about them, is in the tabs below.

Their most notable supported claim

Assertion Supported
Haun: Moving offshore will not protect crypto startups serving US consumers
“Well, I don't think they should wait, but I think they should have common sense and good judgment, and one of the red flags I see sometimes is, you know, and they'll publicly state, oh, we're moving offshore so that we don't have to comply with these laws that…”
Katie Haun Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 28:56 a16z Podcast | The Regulatory Landscape for Crypto

Their most notable contradicted claim

Assertion Contradicted
Haun prosecuted Wells Fargo executives for stealing from deceased customers
“When I was a prosecutor, I prosecuted Wells Fargo's executives for taking dead people's accounts and draining them of money. They basically found out who hadn't used their account for, you know, many years, and then they would drain the money to their own pers…”
Katie Haun Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 10:16 a16z Podcast | The Regulatory Landscape for Crypto

Expressed certainty vs assessment result

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80% certainty 3
86% certainty 4
69% certainty 5

weighted support: a fully supported claim counts one, a partly supported claim counts half. Each filled bar is clickable and opens exactly those claims; "none yet" means nothing said at that certainty level has resolved yet

How they sound: speaking style how? →

236 words/min while actually speaking · 24.3 um and uh per 1k words

No argument clarity score for Katie Haun: no usable question→answer exchanges on raw tape (a fair score needs 8+). We do not score a sample that small. Roundtable and news formats yield far fewer direct exchanges than interviews. Their coarse estimate from 12 exchanges on the produced feed is ≈4.5/5, shown at half point precision because the sample is small and produced tape scores higher.

Measured by listening to the audio itself: 6,509 words across 3 episodes of raw-level tape, transcribed verbatim with every um and uh kept, each one attributed only where the alignment onto our timed stream is unambiguous. These are measurements of speaking style. We do not rank them: across this corpus, fluency and argument quality are nearly uncorrelated (ρ≈0.2), and smooth talking does not signal clear thinking. How it's measured →

Everything Katie Haun said on the a16z Podcast that made the record, most notable first. Filter by type, assessment or year in the ledger →

Opinion
Katie Haun admits the majority of ICOs are frauds or scams
“Look, initial coin offerings or ICOs, I'll be the first to tell you, there is a tremendous amount the majority of them are, seem to be, Frauds or scams.”
Katie Haun Nov 2, 2018 ▶ 26:25 Debating Crypto: Katie Haun vs. Paul Krugman
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Haun: U.S. government is not actively trying to trap ICO projects
“I do want to dispel the notion that the government is sitting there trying to trap, you know, an ICO project or a cryptocurrency project and saying, aha, we got you. That's just not the case. The fact of the matter is the government doesn't hurt for business w…”
Katie Haun Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 4:07 a16z Podcast | The Regulatory Landscape for Crypto
Insight
Haun: Criminals serve as early adopters and beta testers for tech innovations
“I mean, they're the best beta testers of new technologies in many ways. And that's been true, not just of cryptocurrencies, right? That's been true of all kinds of things. If you think of cell phones, if you think of email, social media, the internet, and just…”
Katie Haun Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 5:35 a16z Podcast | The Regulatory Landscape for Crypto
Assertion Partly supported
Haun: Blockchain technology itself has never been hacked, unlike crypto exchanges
“And we, blockchain's never been hacked. Some of the cryptocurrency exchanges have been hacked. You know, Mt. Gox, Coincheck more recently, Bitfinex, and others. But the blockchain itself has never yet been hacked.”
Katie Haun Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 9:50 a16z Podcast | The Regulatory Landscape for Crypto
Assertion Contradicted
Haun prosecuted Wells Fargo executives for stealing from deceased customers
“When I was a prosecutor, I prosecuted Wells Fargo's executives for taking dead people's accounts and draining them of money. They basically found out who hadn't used their account for, you know, many years, and then they would drain the money to their own pers…”
Katie Haun Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 10:16 a16z Podcast | The Regulatory Landscape for Crypto
Assertion Supported
Haun: Moving offshore will not protect crypto startups serving US consumers
“Well, I don't think they should wait, but I think they should have common sense and good judgment, and one of the red flags I see sometimes is, you know, and they'll publicly state, oh, we're moving offshore so that we don't have to comply with these laws that…”
Katie Haun Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 28:56 a16z Podcast | The Regulatory Landscape for Crypto
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Haun: Regulators won't prioritize crypto startups making best-effort compliance attempts
“Just try, and I think that those cases where people are demonstrating best efforts are not going to be the vehicles that the government regulators are going to want to choose.”
Katie Haun Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 30:01 a16z Podcast | The Regulatory Landscape for Crypto
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Haun: DOJ asked her to help shut down Bitcoin in 2012
“So for me, my story was in 2012, I actually was asked by the Justice Department to help shut down and prosecute Bitcoin.”
Katie Haun Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 31:48 a16z Podcast | The Regulatory Landscape for Crypto
What-if
Blockchain transparency caught corrupt federal agents who stole Silk Road Bitcoin
“And I'm here to tell you that without it, we never would have caught these guys. In fact, without the blockchain, they would have still been sitting in the federal government today instead of in the federal penitentiary.”
Katie Haun Dec 15, 2018 ▶ 17:13 Crypto, Beyond Silk Road
Assertion Partly supported
Darknet Bitcoin transactions dropped from 30% in 2012 to under 1%
“In 2012, 30% of Bitcoin transaction value was associated with dark net markets like Alphabay or Silk Road, but by 2018, that number is down to less than one percent.”
Katie Haun Dec 15, 2018 ▶ 19:55 Crypto, Beyond Silk Road
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Katie Haun concedes Bitcoin's main use is not peer-to-peer payments
“Satoshi's white paper says it's an electronic peer-to-peer cashless system for payments. Right. For payments, and I would grant you that it's right now, it's main use is, it's certainly not that.”
Katie Haun Nov 2, 2018 ▶ 5:49 Debating Crypto: Katie Haun vs. Paul Krugman
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Katie Haun says Secret Service lacks resources for $100,000 counterfeiting cases
“The Secret Service in particular is an agency so strapped that I can't tell you how many counterfeiters we could never prosecute. You know, it's such a small fraction of cases that you really have a Secret Service agent. It has to be a mass scale counterfeit. …”
Katie Haun Nov 2, 2018 ▶ 8:42 Debating Crypto: Katie Haun vs. Paul Krugman
Assertion Supported
Katie Haun notes JPMorgan partnered with Zcash despite Jamie Dimon's comments
“JP Morgan was inking in a huge deal with Zcash. Zcash the privacy coin. So it's not that JP Morgan completely thought cryptocurrency, there was no there. They were doing a partnership with Zcash.”
Katie Haun Nov 2, 2018 ▶ 36:55 Debating Crypto: Katie Haun vs. Paul Krugman
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Haun: NFTs will render traditional creator email mailing lists obsolete
“I'm all of a sudden thinking no more mailing lists, right? Like there's no need for that. No need for spam email. Because it allows people to interact, these creators to interact directly with their fans or people who want to use these products and services.”
Katie Haun May 26, 2021 ▶ 16:46 NFT Uses for Today (and Tomorrow)
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Haun: Undisclosed government enforcement actions against crypto projects are coming
“So I think there are things in the space that we're not yet aware of, the public's not yet aware of, that will be coming.”
Katie Haun Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 11:39 a16z Podcast | The Regulatory Landscape for Crypto
Disclosure
DOJ tasked prosecutor Katie Haun with shutting down Bitcoin in 2012
“The first time I ever heard the word Bitcoin was back in 2012 when I was a federal prosecutor at the US Department of Justice. And I heard the word Bitcoin because I was asked to prepare an investigation and a case against it and to help shut it down.”
Katie Haun Dec 15, 2018 ▶ 0:32 Crypto, Beyond Silk Road
Opinion
Katie Haun: Shutting down Bitcoin is like shutting down the internet
“This was one of the early misconceptions out there about cryptocurrency, that you could shut something down like Bitcoin. That would be like saying, let's go shut down cash or the internet. Not only not possible, but also not desirable.”
Katie Haun Dec 15, 2018 ▶ 0:52 Crypto, Beyond Silk Road
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Katie Haun: Cryptocurrency's complete anonymity is a myth
“Myths like cryptocurrency is just completely anonymous, so really it's only useful for criminals and money launderers. Now, how do I know that's just a myth? Well, I spent over a decade as a federal prosecutor, and during that time, I put murderers, organized …”
Katie Haun Dec 15, 2018 ▶ 1:43 Crypto, Beyond Silk Road
Assertion Partly supported
Secret Service agent Sean Bridges stole 21,000 Bitcoin from Silk Road
“Sean Bridges had also been at that proffer session where Curtis had turned over his password and computer and credentials, and that night, Sean Bridges went home using Curtis Green's computer, username, credentials, and password, and drained Silk Road accounts…”
Katie Haun Dec 15, 2018 ▶ 15:04 Crypto, Beyond Silk Road
Assertion Supported
Robert Mueller traced Bitcoin payments to Russian GRU operatives
“In fact, even special counsel Robert Mueller traced Bitcoin payments to Russian GRU operatives in the election interference case.”
Katie Haun Dec 15, 2018 ▶ 17:46 Crypto, Beyond Silk Road
Opinion
Katie Haun says most of the 1,600+ cryptocurrencies are untrustworthy
“I think, you know, it's not just governments that could create untrustable cryptocurrency. I think there are a lot of untrustable cryptocurrencies out there right now. Obviously there are over 1600, I think maybe even more, but at 1.1600, and I certainly would…”
Katie Haun Nov 2, 2018 ▶ 0:48 Debating Crypto: Katie Haun vs. Paul Krugman
Assertion Supported
Katie Haun argues Bitcoin price volatility is lessening over time
“I think now what we're seeing is the price is, the volatility is lessening, and I grant you, there's still a lot of volatility.”
Katie Haun Nov 2, 2018 ▶ 3:33 Debating Crypto: Katie Haun vs. Paul Krugman
Prediction Held up
Katie Haun predicts several cryptocurrencies will succeed long-term
“I don't think there would only be a couple cryptocurrencies that succeed. I do agree with you that it will not be 1600. I think you might see, I don't want to put a number on it, but I think you'll see several emerge as ones that are going to stick around.”
Katie Haun Nov 2, 2018 ▶ 24:47 Debating Crypto: Katie Haun vs. Paul Krugman
Prediction Held up
Katie Haun predicts cryptocurrency will not replace major fiat currencies
“I don't think, though, to answer your question, that it's going to replace all of the other currencies. I'm not saying that, oh, it's going to replace the dollar and replace the euro. I actually don't believe that, ah, is likely to happen.”
Katie Haun Nov 2, 2018 ▶ 25:01 Debating Crypto: Katie Haun vs. Paul Krugman

Show 22statements(22 left)

The other half of the tape: Katie Haun's own voice is left out of every number here. Other people bring the name up 8 times in 6 episodes on the a16z Podcast. 3 statements on the record name them. every mention, with the transcript →

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Statements about Katie Haun, by other people (3)

Opinion
Paul Krugman calls Katie Haun's defense of crypto the best he's heard
“And this was the best, far and away the best defense of crypto that I've heard.”
Paul Krugman Nov 2, 2018 ▶ 38:56 Debating Crypto: Katie Haun vs. Paul Krugman
Assertion Supported
Haun: The DOJ asked her to prepare a case against Bitcoin
“And I was a federal prosecutor with the United States Department of Justice at that time. And I was asked to prepare a case against Bitcoin.”
Catherine (Katie) Haun Nov 2, 2018 ▶ 0:55 3 Common Myths People Have About Crypto
Assertion Supported
Haun: 84% of major companies are incorporating blockchain technology
“42% of the world's top 50 universities now offer at least one cryptocurrency class, and 84% of major companies are incorporating blockchain technology.”
Catherine (Katie) Haun Nov 2, 2018 ▶ 33:05 3 Common Myths People Have About Crypto

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Appearances (5)

EpisodeDateSpeaking time
NFT Uses for Today (and Tomorrow) May 26, 2021 5m
The Career Changing Magic of Strategic Compartmentalization Jan 27, 2020 10m
a16z Podcast | The Regulatory Landscape for Crypto Jan 2, 2019 12m
Crypto, Beyond Silk Road Dec 15, 2018 21m
Debating Crypto: Katie Haun vs. Paul Krugman Nov 2, 2018 16m
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