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Devon Zuegel

Founder & CEO, Esmeralda · 6 appearances on the record.

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Devon Zuegel is an engineer and urbanist who founded GitHub Sponsors to fund open-source software development. She is the founder and CEO of Esmeralda, a traditional neighborhood and community development project in California.

11statements → 6claims → 2claims resolved → 3.73/5average certainty → 2.36/5average debate potential → 1said about them ↓

1 supported 1 partly supported 0 contradicted 4 not checkable as stated how the 6 claims stand · each chip opens the sources

1 prediction · 5 assertions · 2 opinions · 2 insights · 1 what if · every statement was checked. The prediction and assertions are the 6 claims: statements the public record can support or contradict. 2 are resolved, and 4 name no date, number or outcome precise enough to check. Everything else (opinions, insights, what ifs, disclosures) can never be settled by the record, so it carries no assessment.

The record, in short

What the tape says about how Devon argues and how the claims held up. Everything they said, and everything said about them, is in the tabs below.

Their most notable supported claim

Assertion Supported
Zuegel: LinkedIn API shutdown forced dependent third-party businesses to close
“When LinkedIn shut down that service, just lots of businesses literally went out of business. They could not function anymore because they were based on that.”
Devon Zuegel Aug 20, 2018 ▶ 9:04 Crypto and the Evolution of Open Source

How they sound: speaking style how? →

259 words/min while actually speaking · 29.4 um and uh per 1k words · 11.8 false starts per 1k · 34.9% of pauses land inside a clause

No argument clarity score for Devon Zuegel: no usable question→answer exchanges on raw tape (a fair score needs 8+). We do not score a sample that small. Roundtable and news formats yield far fewer direct exchanges than interviews.

Measured by listening to the audio itself: 5,886 words across 6 episodes of raw-level tape, transcribed verbatim with every um and uh kept, each one attributed only where the alignment onto our timed stream is unambiguous. These are measurements of speaking style. We do not rank them: across this corpus, fluency and argument quality are nearly uncorrelated (ρ≈0.2), and smooth talking does not signal clear thinking. How it's measured →

Everything Devon Zuegel said on the a16z Podcast that made the record, most notable first. Filter by type, assessment or year in the ledger →

Insight
Zugal: Lack of open-source incentives drives centralization by large tech firms
“Yeah, the irony behind open source is it's supposed to be this big decentralized thing where everyone can democratically participate, but because the incentives aren't nicely tied to the contributions people make, all of the funding ends up coming from massive…”
Devon Zuegel Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 27:25 a16z Podcast | Cryptonetworks and Cities -- Analogies
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Zugal: ConsenSys is virtually the only entity building Solidity developer tools
“When I, as I write Solidity smart contracts, like, the developer ecosystem is just not there at all. Like, now there's a few exceptions. Like, ConsenSys has built A lot of good tooling. But besides consensus, like, basically no one's building tools.”
Devon Zuegel Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 30:10 a16z Podcast | Cryptonetworks and Cities -- Analogies
Insight
Devon Zuegel: Misaligned open-source incentives cause corporate centralization
“The irony behind open source is it's supposed to be this big decentralized thing where everyone can democratically participate, but because the incentives aren't nicely tied to the contributions people make, all of the funding ends up coming from massive compa…”
Devon Zuegel Jul 26, 2018 ▶ 26:26 Cryptonetworks and Cities: Analogies
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Devon Zuegel: ConsenSys is almost alone in building Solidity developer tools
“Like, whenever, as I write Solidity Smart Contracts, like, the developer ecosystem is just not there at all. Like, now there's a few exceptions. Like, ConsenSys has built a lot of good tooling but besides ConsenSys, like, Basically, no one's building tools.”
Devon Zuegel Jul 26, 2018 ▶ 29:12 Cryptonetworks and Cities: Analogies
Assertion Partly supported
Zuegel: LinkedIn API shutdown destroyed businesses built on its data
“When LinkedIn shut down that service, just lots of businesses literally went out of business. They could not function anymore because they were based on that.”
Devon Zuegel Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 10:22 a16z Podcast | Crypto And The Evolution Of Open Source
Opinion
Zuegel: OAuth is centralized, janky, and limited by tech monopolies
“OAuth as a tool that people can use as you're building a little side project. You don't want to have to build a whole complicated login system. You plug in OAuth. This is a huge step forward, but it is not really sufficient for everything. It's Centralized. It…”
Devon Zuegel Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 28:30 a16z Podcast | Crypto And The Evolution Of Open Source
Assertion Supported
Zuegel: LinkedIn API shutdown forced dependent third-party businesses to close
“When LinkedIn shut down that service, just lots of businesses literally went out of business. They could not function anymore because they were based on that.”
Devon Zuegel Aug 20, 2018 ▶ 9:04 Crypto and the Evolution of Open Source
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Zuegel: Web2 OAuth restricts developers through centralized platform gatekeeping
“And it doesn't give you all the information that you could possibly want because it's dependent on Google and Facebook and Twitter and so on, ah, to give you the information that they're willing to give, which is pretty limited.”
Devon Zuegel Aug 20, 2018 ▶ 27:39 Crypto and the Evolution of Open Source
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Devon Zuegel: Crypto governance experiments could improve real-world election systems
“If we can experiment with the ways we elect leaders or vote on different proposals within smaller communities, perhaps those lessons can, like, bubble up to the real world as well.”
Devon Zuegel Jul 26, 2018 ▶ 33:53 Cryptonetworks and Cities: Analogies
What-if
Zuegel: Crypto networks allow platforms to internalize third-party developer value
“If it were a crypto network, they'd be able to capture it.”
Devon Zuegel Jul 26, 2018 ▶ 19:19 Crypto and Decentralization: Building Blocks
Opinion
Zuegel: IPFS is the AWS equivalent for cryptocurrency infrastructure
“IPFS is sort of the AWS of crypto, or at least the S three.”
Devon Zuegel Jul 26, 2018 ▶ 26:23 Crypto and Decentralization: Building Blocks

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Appearances (6)

EpisodeDateSpeaking time
a16z Podcast | Crypto And The Evolution Of Open Source Jan 2, 2019 5m
a16z Podcast | Cryptonetworks and Cities -- Analogies Jan 2, 2019 5m
a16z Podcast | Cryptonetworks and Decentralization -- Building Blocks Jan 2, 2019 2m
Crypto and the Evolution of Open Source Aug 20, 2018 5m
Cryptonetworks and Cities: Analogies Jul 26, 2018 5m
Crypto and Decentralization: Building Blocks Jul 26, 2018 2m
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