Jan 2, 2019 · 19m · a16z
a16z Podcast | The Future of... You
James Rogers · 5m spoken Rob Reinhart · 5m spoken Jeffrey Wu · 3m spoken Daniel Chow · 1m spoken Chris Dixon · 1m spoken
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This a16z podcast panel features leaders from Halo Neuroscience, Soylent, Apeel Sciences, and Nootrobox discussing cutting-edge innovations in human enhancement, biohacking, and sustainable food production. Together, they outline how material science, neurotechnology, and quantified biological feedback are reshaping nutrition and human capabilities.
How this conversation actually went
Every chapter scored 0–10 on four independent dynamics. Hover any point for the reasoning behind the score. How this is scored →
The host as informed peer 2.5 Guest teaching 4.0 Guest disagreement 0.8 The host pushing back 0.5
speaking balance: gold is the host, purple is the guest (3 minute bins)
Sharpest disagreement ▶ 18:59 Reframing Sustainability Marketing Realities
Rob Reinhart rejects the idealist premise that consumers will pay extra purely for sustainability, arguing that products must deliver direct consumer benefits like lower cost or superior design to scale.
Hardest push from the host ▶ 5:10 Host Pinpoints Distribution Channel ModelChris Dixon directly interrupts Rob Reinhart to establish and confirm that Soylent operates on an exclusively online direct-to-consumer e-commerce model.
Biggest teaching moment ▶ 17:40 Tomato Ripening and Nutrient Density EducationJames Rogers educates the room on the biological and supply chain reasons why store-bought tomatoes lack flavor, explaining how harvesting at stage three reduces nutrient density to one-fifth.
The host holds their own ▶ 8:43 Host Demonstrates Knowledge of Nootropics SubcultureChris Dixon interjects to explain biohacking terminology, citing nootropic stacks and directing listeners to r/nootropics to show deep domain knowledge.
the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
| Chapter | Topic | The host as informed peer | Guest teaching | Guest disagreement | The host pushing back | Why |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Panelist Introductions and Product Overviews | 1 | 4 | 1 | 0 | Host Chris Dixon prompts each panelist to introduce their product and explain why their technology is relevant now. The guests provide detailed technical overviews, with James Rogers offering stark statistics on agricultural efficiency and food spoilage. | |
| Soylent, E-Commerce, and Iterative Food Design | 3 | 3 | 1 | 1 | Chris Dixon intervenes to highlight Soylent's online distribution strategy and direct-to-consumer model. Rob Reinhart elaborates on how e-commerce and internet communities allow Soylent to iterate on food formulations like software versions. | |
| Nootropics, Biohacking, and Quantified Self | 5 | 3 | 1 | 1 | Chris Dixon demonstrates familiarity with nootropics subculture by citing r/nootropics, user stacks, and biometric tracking. Jeffrey Wu outlines how modern quantified self practices draw inspiration from early computer hobbyist culture. | |
| Halo Neuroscience's Brain Stimulation Technology | 1 | 5 | 0 | 0 | Chris Dixon asks broad future-looking questions about brain stimulation and food production. The panelists explain technical concepts ranging from motor cortex neurostimulation to molecular plant barriers and algae-based cellular agriculture. | |
| Synergies in Cognitive and Biological Enhancement | 4 | 4 | 1 | 1 | In response to an audience question on cognitive enhancement synergies, Daniel Chow presents clinical trial data combining electrical brain stimulation with medication. Chris Dixon adds context about research limitations, leading Rob Reinhart to share Soylent's clinical trial plans. | |
| Scaling Food Technology Beyond Niche Markets | 1 | 5 | 1 | 0 | An audience question prompts James Rogers and Rob Reinhart to address market scalability beyond early adopters. James illustrates how Apeel enables growers to harvest produce at peak nutrient density rather than premature transport stages. |
Statements from this episode (16)
Chow: Halo Neuroscience uses electrical brain stimulation to induce hyperlearning
“Specifically, we build technologies that use electricity to stimulate the brain and produce temporary states of hyperlearning.”
Wu: Tens of thousands of people were biohacking drug powders at home
“Tens of thousands of people were doing this in their kitchens, in their home labs.”
Rogers: Apeel extends fresh produce shelf life by three to five times
“And by doing that, we can extend the useful shelf life of fresh produce by a factor of three to five times.”
Rogers: Global food demand will increase 50% in 30 years
“We're going to need 50% more food in the next 30 years to feed the world's growing population.”
Rogers: US food spoilage rates sit at around 40 percent
“If you look at, you know, food spoilage rates in the United States, they're around 40%, so we're throwing away almost half of what we're growing”
Wu: Today's biohackers mirror the 1970s Homebrew Computing Club
“If the Homebrew Computing Club was a group of hobbyists, a bunch of tinkerers around computer parts in the seventies, eighties I feel like that same kind of excitement, enthusiasm, Are the biohackers today, where people are tinkering with human inputs and trac…”
Jeffrey Wu: Mobile sensors stagnated while wearable human sensors exploded
“If you look at mobile devices, a lot of the sensors have stagnated, but where sensors have really exploded in terms of availability and cost is sensors on the human body.”
Chow: Neurosurgical teams, artists, and musicians requested Halo's neurostimulation technology
“We've had, ah, neurosurgical teams reach out to us asking if they could use this technology to train the next generation neurosurgeons. We've had artists Reach out to us to see if they could more gracefully move a brush over canvas. We've had musicians to help…”
Chow: Halo's neurostimulation headset accelerates learning for any movement-based skill
“So, you know, sort of anything movement-based, we could accelerate the rate at which you learn.”
Rogers: Material science will yield produce lasting twice as long without pesticides
“So we view the future as really an opportunity to use this knowledge of material science and knowledge of how to reconstruct nature's molecules into clever structures that will ultimately allow us to deliver produce that lasts twice as long for the consumer an…”
Reinhart: Single-celled organisms and synthetic flavors will produce synthetic meat and nutrients
“So I think we're going to use single-celled organisms to produce the same proteins and fats and carbohydrates that we used to wait an entire growing season for, that we can have organisms that double within hours, and I think we can use, ah, the front-end tech…”
Reinhart: Food will be grown in steel vats instead of agricultural fields
“I think that a lot of food is going to be grown in giant steel vats rather than fields, but that means that we're never going to run out of arable land, because all you really need to make food is sunlight and air and water.”
Chow: Combining electrical stimulation with Zoloft outperforms either treatment alone for depression
“There's a really interesting paper That came out about two years ago that looked at the treatment of major depression. And it's a two by two factorial design, 120 subjects, 30 in one of four groups. You either got electrical stimulation alone, or you got Zolof…”
Reinhart: Soylent conducted a clinical study on Soylent consumption for Nature publication
“We run a peer-reviewed study it'll be published later this year in a nature journal, using a controlled study, studying the effects of tolerability of a People living on Soylent and measuring a lot of biomarkers, vitamin, mineral nutrition, and otherwise, and,…”
Rogers: Early-harvested tomatoes lose 80% of their potential nutrient density
“And the reason for that is that the tomatoes harvested at a stage three, at a color index of three, which means it's green. And you really want to consume it at a color index of five or six when it, when it's that deep red. And the reason for that is that the …”
Reinhart: Sustainable products must offer direct consumer benefits like lower cost
“Asking someone to pay more for a more sustainable product is, is a long shot. You know, most of the market is probably not going to be up for that. I think you have to confer some benefit directly to the consumer, but I think that's entirely possible because i…”