Jan 2, 2019 · 30m · a16z
a16z Podcast | All about Bike Sharing
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This episode of the a16z Podcast explores how dockless bike sharing and micro-mobility are transforming urban transportation through private-sector innovation, data-driven municipal planning, and multi-modal street redesigns. Panelists from Dallas, LA Metro, and LimeBike discuss how shared bicycles address the first-and-last-mile commuting challenge, improve transportation equity, and redefine public rights-of-way.
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The host as informed peer 2.2 Guest teaching 3.1 Guest disagreement 1.8 The host pushing back 1.7
speaking balance: gold is the host, purple is the guest (3 minute bins)
Sharpest disagreement ▶ 29:03 Public vs Private Capital Sustainability
Joshua Schenck provocatively asserts that government-backed capital is inherently more sustainable than private venture models, directly challenging the commercial premises of private dockless operators.
Hardest push from the host ▶ 14:14 Rejection of the Cultural Attitude PremiseJoshua Schenck explicitly discounts Hannah's focus on cultural attitudes, arguing geographic spread rather than mindset dictates bike usage in sprawling metropolitan areas.
Biggest teaching moment ▶ 9:24 Private Auto Expenditure InsightsJoshua Schenck presents recent LA County data showing $8 billion in private car expenditures versus public transit investments, reframing the true economic scale of driving costs for the host and listeners.
The host holds their own ▶ 25:05 China Bike Over-supply ChallengeHannah demonstrates domain knowledge by citing real-world images of Chinese bike sharing graveyards, pressing the guests on how dockless operators avoid municipal clutter and oversupply.
the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
| Chapter | Topic | The host as informed peer | Guest teaching | Guest disagreement | The host pushing back | Why |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Economics and Evolution of Docked vs. Dockless Bike Sharing | 2 | 3 | 1 | 1 | Hannah asks basic exploratory questions about why docked systems are expensive and what changing business models look like. The guests clarify how dockless operators absorb capital costs and eliminate the need for municipal subsidies. | |
| Fleet Availability, Data Optimization, and Municipal 311 Tracking | 2 | 3 | 1 | 1 | Hannah prompts the guests on how dockless fleets ensure bike availability. Councilman Kleinman and Andrew Savage explain app user data and municipal 311 integration used for rebalancing. | |
| The Hidden Economic and Environmental Costs of Auto Reliance | 1 | 3 | 2 | 1 | The host remains largely passive while the panel discusses hidden vehicle costs and transit parity. Kleinman and Savage share lighthearted banter over regional transit light rail size. | |
| Cultural Resistance, Tipping Points, and Cycling Safety | 3 | 3 | 1 | 2 | Hannah brings up her observation from Copenhagen to ask if American cities can reach a tipping point for cycling. Savage explains cultural acceptance, density thresholds, and safety in numbers. | |
| Targeted Deployment and Reclaiming Streets for All Users | 3 | 4 | 3 | 3 | Joshua Schenck politely rejects the host's focus on cultural attitudes, pointing out that LA's vast spatial geometry makes biking impractical for long commutes. Hannah adapts and reframes her point around localized transit options. | |
| Using Bike GPS Data for Urban Planning and Infrastructure | 2 | 3 | 1 | 1 | Hannah prompts the panel about learnings from bike GPS data. Savage and Kleinman describe using origin-destination data to prioritize municipal bike lane construction. | |
| Traffic Calming, Street Design, and Transportation Equity | 1 | 2 | 1 | 1 | Hannah asks about urban design changes beyond bike lanes. Kleinman and Schenck explain traffic calming, street re-design, and solving equity gaps in transit coverage. | |
| E-Assist Innovation and Unregulated Testing Models | 3 | 3 | 2 | 3 | Hannah actively challenges the guests by bringing up viral images of Chinese bike graveyards to question dockless fleet management. Savage addresses the operational fixes and data regulation. | |
| Public-Private Partnerships, Market Failure, and Regulatory Balance | 3 | 4 | 4 | 2 | The conversation turns to public-private regulation where Schenck and Savage debate the sustainability of private venture capital versus public backing. Hannah synthesizes the tension between fixed infrastructure and evolving tech models. |
Statements from this episode (21)
Kleinman: North Texas population will double in 50 years
“We are facing doubling of the size of North Texas in population in the next 50 years, and we cannot build enough roads.”
Schenck: Bikes will transform cities more than AVs over 20-30 years
“I think bikes will transform cities more than autonomous vehicles over the next 20 to 30 years, and that's because autonomous vehicles are largely going to be transformative in the safety arena.”
Kleinman: Dockless bike share companies bear full costs without city subsidies
“Every company we've talked to up until the dockless showed up, wanted us to partner with them, which basically meant spend money to get the docks and the bikes in our city. Whereas when dockless came around, they're picking up the entire cost.”
Schenck: Public agencies expect private sector to fund bike-share systems
“You're seeing a situation now where public agencies are not anticipating coming forward with government money to subsidize even docked or undocked systems. And we're expecting that the private sector can handle this and that our role is more of a regulatory ro…”
Savage: Over 40% of LimeBike rides connect directly to mass transit
“Our data actually is showing that over 40% of our rides start or stop near a bus or train stop, and so that tells us that we're able to be solving some of those solutions, and I think, in fact, in Dallas, 51% of our rides happen during the evening commute.”
Kleinman: Smaller bike sharing vendors in Dallas are already failing
“And we're actually seeing, I think already a fallout of one or two companies who really have just not kept pace. The bikes do seem to be available where they need to be from the bigger vendors and the smaller vendors just can't keep up.”
Kleinman: Dallas operates the largest light rail system in North America
“One of our claims to fame is we have the largest light rail system in North America.”
Schenck: LA County added 2.1 million cars and $8B auto spend
“There's a new study coming out is going to indicate that in the last decade, Los Angeles County has added 2.3 million residents and 2.1 million cars and those .1000000 cars. That was about eight billion dollars in new private expenditure on automobiles compare…”
Savage: Increasing bike volume on city streets reduces cycling crashes
“What's been demonstrated around the world is that as more bikes are on the street, actually safety goes up, so you'll have fewer incidences of Crashes or conflicts with cars, etc.”
Schenck: Bicycles are unrealistic for most trips in sprawling Los Angeles
“Because I think right now in Los Angeles County, most of the county is so spread out, and the job centers and places people are going are so spread out that just for a lot of trips, bicycles aren't realistic.”
Kleinman: Dallas has no undeveloped land left and must grow vertically
“In Dallas, we're really bound by our suburbs. There's no way we can grow out. The only way we can grow is up. So for us to move forward economically, we've got to have more density. We have no more undeveloped land, especially north of downtown.”
Kleinman: Dallas plans 1,000 miles of bike lanes, deploying 50 annually
“So our bike plan, like I mentioned, has like a thousand miles of bike lanes on it, and we're only deploying, you know, 50 miles a year or something like that.”
Savage: LimeBike envisions expanding into small electric vehicles and cars
“We need to do bikes and bike sharing really well to then be able to offer a suite of mobility options in the urban environment or in cities. So we could envision a future where we're rolling out very small vehicles or electric cars, for example, that might not…”
Kleinman: Dallas is converting multi-lane one-way streets to prioritize local access
“Historically, the city planning has focused our streets on what I say driving through, and now we're really focused on driving to. Which means that things like where we've had these big one way, three, four lane one way, so people can just all leave downtown a…”
Schenck: Cities will reallocate car street space to transit and bikes
“I think that what you'll see as we try to move towards many alternatives to vehicles is that the streets are going to Have a very different look to them, but not just for bikes, right? Because right now, most of Los Angeles, every street is designed with cars …”
Savage: LimeBike's Seattle launch reached areas unserved by docked systems
“We had an example where we started serving the city of Seattle. They had an old program called Pronto, which is a dock-based system with 500 bikes, and within the first few days of operating, 20 to 30% of our bikes were in parts of the city that previously had…”
Kleinman: Dallas operates dockless bike sharing completely unregulated
“So actually in Dallas, we're completely unregulated.”
Kleinman: Dallas scaled to 20,000 bike-share bikes in four months
“What's happened in Dallas is we went from zero bike share to probably 15 to 20,000 bikes in what a matter of like four months.”
Savage: Dallas has more bikes than any other U.S. city
“Dallas now has more bikes in its city than any other U.S. City, period, including New York City that is more than 10 times larger.”