May 3, 2023 · 25m · a16z
Digital Branding: Lessons from Vogue, Monetizing Social, Creator Tips | Field Notes with Connie Chan
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In this episode of Andreessen Horowitz's Field Notes, host Connie Chan interviews publishing veteran and President of WME Fashion Susan Plagemann about the evolution of fashion media, digital monetization strategies, and actionable brand-building advice for modern creators and tech founders.
How this conversation actually went
Every chapter scored 0–10 on four independent dynamics. Hover any point for the reasoning behind the score. How this is scored →
speaking balance: gold is the host, purple is the guest (3 minute bins)
Susan forcefully rejects the historical platform paradigm of publishers giving content away for free, asserting that brands like Vogue made Instagram cool and deserve financial compensation.
Hardest push from the host ▶ 19:44 Demanding concrete questions over generalitiesWhen Susan provides a generic answer about asking questions and listening, Connie immediately interrupts to demand specific actionable questions creators should ask.
Biggest teaching moment ▶ 7:05 Educating on early web publishing UX hurdlesSusan educates Connie on how early web editors had to discover basic digital UX norms that are taken for granted today, such as user preference for vertical scrolling over horizontal navigation.
The host holds their own ▶ 20:41 Framing consultative brand sales strategyConnie demonstrates sharp business acumen by recapping and contrasting traditional creator self-promotion pitches against Susan's consultative problem-solving framework.
the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
| Chapter | Topic | The host as informed peer | Guest teaching | Guest disagreement | The host pushing back | Why |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Cosmopolitan's Cultural Influence and Print Business Model | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0 | Connie frames the historical context of Cosmopolitan in 1998, asking Susan to elaborate on print media's influence. Susan explains the terrifying scope of taking the role and how print magazines served as market makers prior to the internet. | |
| Expanding Cosmopolitan into a Mega Brand | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0 | Susan details brand expansion strategies at Cosmo and early video experiments at Marie Claire. Connie interjects with light observations on video podcasts and asks clarifying operational questions about re-reporting print stories for video. | |
| Adapting Print Publications to Digital Demands and UX | 3 | 4 | 0 | 0 | Susan recounts building Vogue.com from scratch and the early days of figuring out digital publishing UX like vertical scrolling. Connie asks informed questions about content volume demands and notes Vogue's kingmaker status in fashion. | |
| Editorial Unity and Digital Video Innovation at Vogue | 4 | 3 | 0 | 0 | Connie poses a structured operational question about whether print and digital were managed under unified editorial leadership or as separate business units. Susan explains Vogue's singular editorial vision and early digital video innovations. | |
| Social Media Strategy and Monetizing Platform Content | 4 | 4 | 1 | 0 | Connie asks about app versus web feature parity and social media monetization. Susan passionately argues that tech platforms ought to compensate legacy media brands for driving platform engagement and value. | |
| Leading WME Fashion and Strategic Business Pillars | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0 | Connie smoothly transitions the conversation to Susan's role as President of WME Fashion. Susan outlines the four underlying business entities and her primary strategic goals for talent and brand partnerships. | |
| Creator Guidance: Asking Strategic Questions to Brand Partners | 5 | 4 | 1 | 4 | When Susan offers high-level advice about listening, Connie pushes back for specifics by demanding concrete questions creators should ask brands. Connie then synthesizes Susan's advice, contrasting consultative problem-solving with standard creator pitches. | |
| Brand Identity, Self-Disruption, and Startup Strategy | 5 | 3 | 0 | 0 | Susan discusses brand identity and self-disruption. Connie demonstrates venture expertise by connecting these brand principles directly to tech startup strategy and clear value propositions. |