Shenzhen

5 statements across 4 episodes · 3 bullish · 1 bearish · 4 people on the record · first statement Jul 15, 2017 by Benedict Evans · said 30 times in 18 episodes since 2017 · across every show →

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Everything said about Shenzhen, oldest first

Jul 15, 2017 neutral
Insight
Evans: Hardware success depends on vision and distribution, not core tech
“Today, you can just go to Shenzhen and say, we'll have a number three and number 15, please, and then it gets put together for you. And so the question is more about the vision and the route to market than the, kind of, the underlying core technology.”
Benedict Evans Jul 15, 2017 ▶ 9:16 Mobile Is Eating the World, 2015
Jan 2, 2019 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Shirky: Xiaomi leverages flash sales to secure bulk component discounts
“What it lets Xiaomi do is do these flash sales where they say, Look, we've got a 100,000 of the Hongmi, or we've got a 100,000 of the Me Too. We're going to sell those now. You have to sign up for the right to get a ticket to have a chance to buy the phone, wh…”
Clay Shirky Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 2:59 a16z Podcast | 'In the Eye of a Tornado': Views on Innovation from China
Dec 12, 2024 negative
Assertion Contradicted
All robotic arm components currently originate from Shenzhen, China
“Right now, all the components for robotic arms, everything that you might, that might go into an autonomous factory is all coming from Shenzhen.”
Erin Price-Wright Dec 12, 2024 ▶ 11:05 Jobs of the Future: Where Hardware Meets Software
Oct 6, 2025 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Sinofsky: Shenzhen manufacturers build dedicated facilities for 100k-unit laptop commitments
“The PC industry grew up in Shenzhen. And they have these factories where like you show up and if you commit to building, you know, a 100,000 laptops, they will build you a building and they will keep all your IP in the building. They will not cross employees o…”
Steven Sinofsky Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 27:18 The Lawyerly Society vs. The Engineering State: Who Owns the Future?
Oct 6, 2025 positive
Opinion
Sinofsky: Restricting rural migrant movement enabled China's economic system to work
“In the factories in Shenzhen, there are the rural people, and they're not allowed to just move. Like, they can temporarily relocate for work, and then the state sort of requires them to go back, and in a sense, they are forced to repatriate what they earned as…”
Steven Sinofsky Oct 6, 2025 ▶ 5:43 The Lawyerly Society vs. The Engineering State: Who Owns the Future?
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