PayPal

includes PayPal Honey, PayPal Shops

29 statements across 18 episodes · 6 bullish · 5 bearish · 14 people on the record · first statement Jul 15, 2017 by Jeff Jordan · said 172 times in 57 episodes since 2017 · across every show →

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Everything said about PayPal, oldest first

Jul 15, 2017
Disclosure
eBay could not launch services pre-smartphone due to connectivity limits
“And when I was at eBay, I, since eBay, I used to think one of my biggest failings there was I didn't build a services business. It seemed incredibly obvious to me that eBay with the community and PayPal with the payments should support a services business. I n…”
Jeff Jordan Jul 15, 2017 ▶ 18:22 Marketplaces
Jul 16, 2017 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Rampell: Middle-layer payment processors face disruption from smartphone wallets
“The middle section here, this cloud section is in a lot more trouble today. Or it will be in a lot more trouble as digital wallet usage continues to proliferate.”
Alex Rampell Jul 16, 2017 ▶ 18:13 What Happens When Mobile (Really) Hits the Wallet
Jan 2, 2019 bullish
Insight
Balaji: Bitcoin is inherently viral because payment recipients must install wallets
“Bitcoin is inherently viral, like PayPal, like email, like Skype, like Facebook, because when you send Bitcoin to somebody else, you're telling them, download the Bitcoin client.”
Balaji Srinivasan Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 7:00 a16z Podcast | The State of the Bitcoin Ecosystem, and a Theory on Satoshi
Jan 2, 2019
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Thiel: Investor passed on PayPal because Musk's car outvalued his condo
“There was one of the investors I talked to years later who talked to us in summer of 2000 and said he didn't want to invest in the company because the CEO, Elon was living in a one bedroom condo in Palo Alto at the time, and the CEO was clearly lying to him be…”
Peter Thiel Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 30:16 a16z Podcast | The (Definite) Optimism of Peter Thiel
Jan 2, 2019 bullish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Andreessen: Backing PayPal alumni forms the best VC portfolio ever
“The most like amazing venture capital portfolio of all time would be if you just simply invested in all the PayPal founders. Or all the PayPal people for all the new companies.”
Marc Andreessen Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 21:52 a16z Podcast | The (Definite) Optimism of Peter Thiel
Jan 2, 2019
Assertion Supported
Thiel: PayPal's Early Referral Strategy Cost $20 Per Customer
“If you signed up, you got 10 dollars. If you referred someone who signed up, you got 10 dollars. So we had a 20 dollar customer acquisition cost.”
Peter Thiel Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 4:46 a16z Podcast | The (Definite) Optimism of Peter Thiel
Jan 2, 2019 positive
Assertion Partly supported
Thiel: PayPal reached break-even in September 2001, first post-9/11 IPO filing
“We got to break even in September, 2001. We were the first company in the U.S. To file after nine 11, filed end of September.”
Peter Thiel Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 14:43 a16z Podcast | The (Definite) Optimism of Peter Thiel
Jan 2, 2019
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Thiel: PayPal burned over $10M monthly through September 2000
“We did dial back the marketing pretty quickly, although there was there was there then emerged this very big fraud problem in rapid succession and so the burn stayed over ten million a month all the way through September, 2000.”
Peter Thiel Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 8:47 a16z Podcast | The (Definite) Optimism of Peter Thiel
Jan 2, 2019
Assertion Open · timeframe May 2000
Thiel: 30-35% of eBay sellers used PayPal by May 2000
“Yeah, we'd started targeting eBay January, 2000. I'd say it was 30, 35% of the sellers on eBay were using us by April or May, so it was fairly heavily embedded.”
Peter Thiel Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 11:23 a16z Podcast | The (Definite) Optimism of Peter Thiel
Jan 2, 2019
What-if
Thiel: PayPal would have grown much larger had it stayed independent
“Certainly, if you'd been able to keep it going as an independent company, it would be a lot bigger. 1012 years later”
Peter Thiel Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 19:39 a16z Podcast | The (Definite) Optimism of Peter Thiel
Jan 2, 2019
Assertion Supported
Thiel: PayPal Raised $100M Days Before Dot-Com Crash
“And so we closed on, yeah, we closed on a hundred million on Friday, March 31st, and the following Monday, the bottom fell out of the market.”
Peter Thiel Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 7:51 a16z Podcast | The (Definite) Optimism of Peter Thiel
Jan 2, 2019
Assertion Partly supported
Thiel: PayPal Scaled From 100k to 1M Users in 10 Weeks
“The customer base was growing at sort of a five to seven percent daily compounding rate. It had hit a 100,000 users in, on February third, 2000, and got to a million by mid-April of 2000.”
Peter Thiel Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 4:54 a16z Podcast | The (Definite) Optimism of Peter Thiel
Jan 2, 2019 positive
Assertion Supported
Hindman: Twitter, Airbnb, Netflix, and PayPal run on Mesos
“The open source components that, that make up a large part of the DCOS are used by a large number of companies today. Some of the biggest users out there are companies like Twitter Airbnb, HubSpot, eBay, and PayPal are using it for running things. Netflix is u…”
Benjamin Heinemann Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 20:57 a16z Podcast | Why the Datacenter Needs an Operating System
Jan 2, 2019
Assertion Partly supported
Jeff Jordan: Eastern European organized crime drove early eBay and PayPal fraud
“Most of the fraud on eBay and PayPal was organized crime, typically out of Eastern Europe. Where they had incredibly talented computer science professionals who lacked a lot of commercial opportunity.”
Jeff Jordan Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 20:04 a16z Podcast | The Marketplace Rules
Jan 2, 2019 bullish
Assertion Supported
Armstrong: Bitcoin GitHub repositories outpace traditional payment systems like PayPal
“There's about 6000 total to date, which is outpacing the number of GitHub repositories for other common payment systems like PayPal.”
Brian Armstrong Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 8:56 a16z Podcast | Bitcoin, Greece, and What’s Next for Cryptocurrency
Jan 2, 2019 bearish
Insight
Back: Massively scaling Bitcoin sacrifices decentralization, turning it into PayPal
“You can scale massively and lose the decentralization, and at that point, Bitcoin loses most of its distinguishing features, and you're left with a kind of PayPal situation With all the things people gripe about with PayPal.”
Adam Back Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 22:01 a16z Podcast | Hard Forks, Hard Choices for Bitcoin
Jan 2, 2019 bearish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Dixon: PayPal blocks 20% of international transactions due to aggressive fraud tuning
“The way PayPal deals with many issues is they simply block about half the world from transacting, right? I mean, there's an eBay, 20% of all internet, international transactions are blocked because the way they deal with the fact that their system is not built…”
Chris Dixon Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 9:51 a16z Podcast | Advertising vs. Micropayments in the Age of Ad Blockers
Jan 2, 2019
Disclosure
Levchin used Seven Samurai as a practical team-building guide at PayPal
“And then I started building a team at PayPal. And I started watching it as a practical aid for building a team.”
Max Levchin Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 35:26 a16z Podcast | Building Affirm, and Why Max Levchin Has Watched Seven Samurai 100-Plus Times
Jan 2, 2019 negative
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Levchin: PayPal had six weeks of runway left in summer 2000
“So when we looked at our loss rates in the summer of 2000, we were basically Bleeding out millions of dollars in fraud related losses per week. We were basically running out of money, even though we had sixty million dollars in the bank, which was very strange…”
Max Levchin Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 20:58 a16z Podcast | Building Affirm, and Why Max Levchin Has Watched Seven Samurai 100-Plus Times
Jan 2, 2019 neutral
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Mougayar: Banks will become back-end infrastructure for digital front-end apps
“There will be many scenarios, but one of them is that they become more of a back end. If you think about it, now we are connecting more and more services to our bank account, and we are manipulating this money, but without touching the bank account itself. And…”
William Mougayar Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 25:30 a16z Podcast | Banking on the Blockchain
Jan 2, 2019
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Alex Rampell: Amazon likely holds more payment cards on file than PayPal
“Amazon probably has more cards on file than PayPal has cards on file.”
Alex Rampell Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 19:49 a16z Podcast | Fintech Revolution or Evolution?
Jan 2, 2019
Assertion Supported
Rampell: eBay bought PayPal because its internal payment tool failed
“They had their own bill payment thing that they developed later, which didn't really work, and that's why they bought PayPal, but it was all COD.”
Alex Rampell Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 23:32 a16z Podcast | The Movement of Money
Jan 2, 2019 negative
Assertion Supported
Jordan: Early PayPal and Facebook social commerce partnerships failed to gain traction
“PayPal did a few deals in back at the beginning of the decade with the Facebook and, you know, felt like, okay, there you have money there. You have social graph. We have social commerce, right? Well, it just, it hasn't worked that way.”
Jeff Jordan Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 17:31 a16z Podcast | Welcome to the New Era of Commerce
Dec 11, 2024
Disclosure
Zapier made its first revenue via a $100 personal PayPal transfer
“Send it to my personal PayPal account. And so that was literally how we made our first money was just a hundred bucks via PayPal.”
Wade Foster Dec 11, 2024 ▶ 19:33 How Zapier Became Profitable in 3 Years and Scaled to $5B with Wade Foster
Dec 11, 2024
Disclosure
PayPal and HiRise were among Zapier's first four built integrations
“PayPal and HiRISE were two of the first four that we built”
Wade Foster Dec 11, 2024 ▶ 8:37 How Zapier Became Profitable in 3 Years and Scaled to $5B with Wade Foster
Oct 16, 2025
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Rabois: PayPal and Square had almost no financial services experts early on
“At PayPal, we had of the 254 employees we had in Mountain View when we went public to maybe three had any expertise in financial services at Square. If you included me, which is I'm certainly not a prototypical financial services guy of the first 300 employees…”
Keith Rabois Oct 16, 2025 ▶ 45:55 Keith Rabois: Israel, OpenAI, Opendoor, and DOGE
Oct 20, 2025
Disclosure
Hoffman: PayPal almost went bankrupt from exponential free volume costs
“At PayPal we had to change to, like, we, as you know, because you were close to us there, like, we had to change to a paid model because we're like, oh, look, we have exponentiating volume, which means exponentiating cost curve, which means despite having rais…”
Reid Hoffman Oct 20, 2025 ▶ 44:04 Reid Hoffman on AI, Consciousness, and the Future of Labor
Sep 3, 2026
Insight
Levchin: Seeing peers' human vulnerabilities inspired PayPal alumni to pursue massive ideas
“So if you know kind of the true base version of who we all are, as you watch one of these people go for something really big, like Elon Taking humanity to Mars, which is extraordinary. And yet, you know, he's a human being. Like, I've seen him sweaty and tired…”
Max Levchin Sep 3, 2026 ▶ 51:41 Why AI Agents Could Finally Reinvent the Credit Card
Sep 3, 2026 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Levchin: PayPal deliberately selected and hired future startup founders by design
“As we were interviewing, certainly the early team and even the later team, We kept on selecting for entrepreneurs. We would ask, like, one of the stock questions I would ask was, so what are you going to do after PayPal? And the answer that I welcomed the most…”
Max Levchin Sep 3, 2026 ▶ 49:56 Why AI Agents Could Finally Reinvent the Credit Card
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