Initial Coin Offerings

also referred to as: ico · icos

16 statements across 8 episodes · 2 bullish · 10 bearish · 9 people on the record · first statement May 5, 2018 by Linda Xie · across every show →

Everything said about Initial Coin Offerings, oldest first

May 5, 2018
Assertion Supported
Telegram raised $1.7 billion in its initial coin offering
“Telegram's ICO alone actually raised 1.7 billion dollars.”
Linda Xie May 5, 2018 ▶ 11:58 An Intro to Crypto: Building Blocks
Jul 15, 2018 negative
Insight
Stark: Early ICO windfalls create perverse incentives that impede shipping products
“There can be perverse incentives because now there's so much money and they're not actually able to ship a product.”
Elizabeth Stark Jul 15, 2018 ▶ 22:30 An Intro to Crypto: Decentralization, the Big Picture
Jul 15, 2018 bearish
Prediction Held up
Stark: Lightning Labs will never launch an ICO
“Well, I, I've said publicly, there's never going to be a lightning ICO.”
Elizabeth Stark Jul 15, 2018 ▶ 21:30 An Intro to Crypto: Decentralization, the Big Picture
Jul 15, 2018 negative
Assertion Supported
Stark: Some ICOs raised tens of millions before shipping any product
“But there's a world in which, okay, you know, there have been ICOs where on day one the folks involved made say tens of millions or more of dollars and they hadn't even shipped a product.”
Elizabeth Stark Jul 15, 2018 ▶ 15:07 An Intro to Crypto: Decentralization, the Big Picture
Jul 26, 2018 negative
Opinion
Jesse Walden: Not every crypto project needs its own token
“And not every one of these projects necessarily needs its own token. Some of these projects could be just sort of core infrastructure at the base layer of the protocol but there's not an incentive or there's at least no mechanism by which the community can for…”
Jesse Walden Jul 26, 2018 ▶ 28:02 Cryptonetworks and Cities: Analogies
Nov 2, 2018 neutral
Assertion Partly supported
Katie Haun estimates ICOs raised $7 to $8 billion in 2018
“It was, what, seven billion dollars in ISEA initial coin offerings. And my number might be outdated because, you know, the year's gone on since I looked. But it's something like seven, eight billion dollars already this year alone.”
Katie Haun Nov 2, 2018 ▶ 26:59 Debating Crypto: Katie Haun vs. Paul Krugman
Nov 2, 2018 negative
Prediction Held up
Katie Haun predicts wave of government enforcement actions against fraudulent ICOs
“Well, much like Secret Service, they can't do every case, number one, so a lot of those scams are gonna get a pass, but number two, I predict we are gonna see a lot of enforcement actions against fraudulent, scammy ICOs, and good because they bring down the na…”
Katie Haun Nov 2, 2018 ▶ 28:20 Debating Crypto: Katie Haun vs. Paul Krugman
Jan 2, 2019 bearish
Insight
Ehrsam: Most ICO projects will fail like ordinary startups
“Just like startups, there's a small percentage that are legit and really worth funding. And there's a whole glut of projects that unfortunately are not and probably won't go anywhere.”
Fred Ehrsam Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 23:24 a16z Podcast | Why Crypto Tokens Matter
Jan 2, 2019 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Carlson-Wee: Crypto development pace will never slow down post-ICO inflection
“I think that despite ICOs right now being very noisy, sort of scammy and all these things, it has created an inflection point where when you have a brilliant idea, the capital is much more readily available from a large group of people that actually conceptual…”
Olaf Carlson-Wee Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 11:38 a16z Podcast | Trends in Cryptocurrencies
Jan 2, 2019 bullish
Opinion
Carlson-Wee: ICOs are the most efficient capital coordination mechanism in history
“With ICOs, I think that it's probably the fastest and most efficient capital coordination we've ever seen in capitalism, like, since money was invented.”
Olaf Carlson-Wee Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 19:31 a16z Podcast | Trends in Cryptocurrencies
Jan 2, 2019 negative
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Dixon: ICOs are not necessary for crypto network success
“There's been so much attention on ICOs that, by the way, you don't need an ICO. Bitcoin never had an ICO. Ethereum had a very, relatively speaking, small one, eighteen million. And I don't think that was a key part of the network success.”
Chris Dixon Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 32:08 a16z Podcast | Mental Models for Understanding Crypto Tokens
Jan 2, 2019
Assertion Partly supported
Nick Tomaino: November 2017 saw $400 million in ICO token sales
“My sense was that the ICOs had slowed down quite a bit, but there were still four hundred million in token sales in November alone.”
Nick Tomaino Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 7:24 a16z Podcast | Mental Models for Understanding Crypto Tokens
Jan 2, 2019 negative
Opinion
Dixon: Many ICOs masquerade as usage tokens just to raise money
“And I think what you were saying about ICOs is a lot of sort of masquerading is that there are obviously people taking advantage of With the, you know, just the money flowing in, and sort of taking what is probably just a normal company that's not a protocol, …”
Chris Dixon Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 2:55 a16z Podcast | Mental Models for Understanding Crypto Tokens
Jan 2, 2019 negative
Insight
Tomaino: Overemphasizing ICOs damages crypto project communities
“And I actually think if you focus too much on the ICO or the, you know, the token sale, it can actually really hurt your community.”
Nick Tomaino Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 32:24 a16z Podcast | Mental Models for Understanding Crypto Tokens
Jan 2, 2019 neutral
Assertion Supported
Tomaino: Blockchain forks created significantly more value in 2017 than ICOs
“You know, we hear so much about the ICO boom, but in terms of, kind of, like, total value created this year, there's actually been way more value created by forks than ICOs.”
Nick Tomaino Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 18:34 a16z Podcast | Mental Models for Understanding Crypto Tokens
Aug 29, 2019 negative
Opinion
Narula: Permissioned blockchains are more decentralized than ICO projects
“I put permission blockchains as being more decentralized than these so-called ICOs we're seeing, or initial coin offerings. Because quite frankly, if you can do an initial coin offering, if you can raise money, that means that there's an organization behind wh…”
Neha Narula Aug 29, 2019 ▶ 17:51 The Architecture of Crypto Innovation
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