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Casey Winters: Proven growth leaders won't join startups that haven't prioritized growth
“There are perhaps 50 people that are capable, that have shown previous, like, head of growth experience. And they're not going to join your company until they've seen that you've already prioritized growth and shown that you value it inside an organization.”
Winters: Growth connects users to existing value, not new features
“Growth is about connecting people to the value that's already been created by the business, you know, either through Product or services or whatever. So growth is not about building totally new features, totally new products. It's about once we have those and …”
Casey Winters: Experienced growth leaders won't join until startups prioritize growth internally
“There are perhaps 50 people that are capable, that have shown previous, like, head of growth experience, and they're not going to join your company until they've seen that you've already prioritized growth and shown that you value it.”
Winters: Scalable startup growth is limited to four core strategies
“Fire strategies, there's really only a few of them, right? You know, you could scale via sales, you could scale via performance marketing, you could scale, you know, content loops, or you could scale via virality.”
Winters: Growth leaders exist to execute founder vision, not create strategy
“What a lot of product leaders make a mistake of, as well as growth leaders, is they think it's their show. They get to create the vision. They get to create the strategy. And it's like, not really. You're there to execute on the vision and strategy of the foun…”
Winters: Performance marketing over-reliance fails within five years without network effects
“The default towards performance marketing is the only channel that matters. It creates a lot of issues long term, especially if you're not network effect driven, where It's going to work really well in year one, not as well in year two, and in year five, you'r…”
Winters: Pinterest signed up over half the US via Google preview walls
“When people came in from Google, we would let you see a preview of the content, and then we would ask you to sign up to see more of it... As we did that, that was really successful. And we ended up signing up, you know, like over half of the U S up to Pinteres…”
Winters: Isolated growth teams fail long-term without organizational alignment
“While that can be really good at going fast, a lot of times by going fast, you're not going far because you're not as default biased to keeping the rest of the organization in loop with what a growth team is doing.”
Winters: Do not hire a Head of Growth for initial traction
“You don't want to bring it ahead of growth to start Kindling things. You want to bring it ahead of growth to like really start the fire.”
Casey Winters: Brand marketing is unmeasurable and speculative for early startups
“Brand marketing, which is neither measurable nor scalable and requires money. It's not a bad idea. It's just usually has a longer return, a more speculative return. So generally startups wait longer before they invest in that.”
Casey Winters: Refusing interview case studies signals poor fit for startup roles
“Interviews should be for both sides, right? If I feel like that case study is beneath me, that's a problem. That means I'm probably not a good fit for the job right now, and you should be hiring someone more junior, right?”
Pinterest signed up over half the US population via Google SEO
“So as we did that, that was really successful, and we ended up signing up, you know, like over half of the US up to Pinterest with, you know, a pretty high retention rate.”
Casey Winters: Enterprise SaaS companies should not copy Facebook's growth strategy
“So much of this is context-specific, and so few people in the startup community know even which context they're in. So they might, oh, I read Facebook does it this way, and it's like, great, you're an enterprise SaaS company. What Facebook does has, like, no m…”
Winters: Organic social reach as a growth channel is dead
“Generally, anything organic, social related, just doesn't exist anymore, because the social networks are so good at taxing any reach that you want to have on the social channels. So that's one that feels relatively dead.”
Winters: Scaling growth requires deep engineering work, not quick hacks
“Growth is done in a team, and it's not just hacks or experiments. Like, it requires understanding the growth model of the business, where the constraints are, and potentially doing quick hacks, but a lot of times deep engineering work to actually scale the bus…”
Casey Winters: Startups should build growth capabilities immediately after product-market fit
“As soon as possible after product market fit, that's when growth becomes the number one concern of most startups, and that's where you need to be building out that capability.”
Winters: Most successful Heads of Growth are early internal hires who scaled
“So a lot of the people that you look at that were head of growth, We're just really early employees that took an interest in that area and then scaled a team around it.”
Casey Winters: Product growth connects users to existing core value
“Growth is about connecting people to the value that's already been created by the business, you know, either through product or services or whatever. So growth is not about building totally new features, totally new products. It's about once we have those and …”
Winters: Intuition-based growth experiments failed at every new job he took
“Every growth experiment I've recommended when I've joined a company, I'm fundamentally using more of my gut from previous experience. Every time that has not worked.”
Casey Winters: Startups must build growth capabilities immediately after product-market fit
“As soon as possible after product market fit, that's when growth becomes the number one concern of most startups, and that's where you need to be building out that capability.”
Casey Winters: Product-driven growth requires one-week experimental projects over six-month builds
“A lot of what product driven growth requires is someone that can figure out a grand opportunity and then break it down into really small chunks that help them learn that they're not, you know, putting forth a six month project. They're putting forth a one week…”
Winters: Growth leaders must talk to users, not just analyze data
“Cause if our job as like a growth leader is to connect people to the core value of the product, we need to understand that core value almost better than anyone at the company. We need to know how to talk about it. We need to know the steps that get them introd…”
Winters: Startup executives must resolve inter-departmental conflict themselves
“I see a mistake a lot of executives make, and this is outside of growth too, where they're like, they'll expect their manager or the CEO to like take care of their problems for them. And it's like, no, that's not what happens. Like you got to go solve those pr…”
Winters: Visionary product founders prioritize core product evolution over metric optimization
“Visionary product founders, they are going to naturally spend more of their time thinking about how the core product evolves, rather than thinking about how can I move this metric up one, two percent, five percent, 10%, et cetera.”
Casey Winters: Growth teams must prioritize learning velocity over short-term results
“You can't focus entirely on the results. What you really want to focus on is the learning. Are we continuing to learn how our users operate, how this business operates, and what our scalable growth strategies are? As long as that learning loop is quick, that's…”
Casey Winters: Facebook Open Graph changes temporarily killed Pinterest's viral user acquisition
“When Facebook changed the way the open graph worked, all of a sudden we stopped getting any new users.”
Winters: Founder execution speed is the top factor when angel investing
“In other companies, like I could rely on my rate of execution, you know, like my speed, my learning loop, but now it's become this different element of, I'm really trying to gauge how quickly they learn, how quickly they execute. And that's like the biggest fa…”