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Cohen: Navan's co-founder vibe-coded their expense product in six hours
“I gave the team a challenge, and actually Ilan, my co-founder, obviously took it first and did it over the weekend to vibe code our expense product. And it took him six hours to do that.”
Navan was the first company to conduct COVID layoffs over Zoom
“They were the first company to let people go. And they got so much shit on, ah, for it because they fired people Over Zoom, as if there was any other way they could have, and they still got a lot of shit from the press”
Cohen: Navan's AI handled 55% of support chats during JFK shutdown
“55% of the chats were run through Eva, ok? Our call center, in the worst time during this event, The wait time was 16 minutes, one six.”
Delta Airlines refused to work with Navan in 2018 existential crisis
“In 2018 or 19, we had an existential crisis when Delta Airlines decided that they hated us, and you cannot really succeed as a travel company when one of the three major airlines in the U.S. Is not willing to work with you in the swing and all that, and luckil…”
Lemkin: Navan was forced to IPO due to debt obligations
“I think Navon had seven hundred million in debt and only two hundred million in cash. It had to IPO to pay off its debt.”
Cohen: Netflix, Heineken, and Adobe signed with Navan during COVID lockdowns
“Our biggest customers would sign up with us, like, customers like Netflix, Heineken, Adobe, sign with us on these times where people were not traveling because, again, change management, The easy thing to do at that time.”
Cohen: Public travel competitors operate at 50-55% margins versus Navan's 75%
“You're talking about 50, 55% gross margins compared to 75 today.”
Cohen: Navan is not for sale and will not sell
“We are not for sale, and there is a reason for that, and by the way, ah, we've, ah, kind of passed this test, ah, several times. Other companies could have sent me to retirement a few times by just, ah, you know, buying us, and we didn't sell because we think …”
Cohen: Unmanaged corporate travel is larger than the managed market
“There is the managed side, you know, Amex and Concare. There is the non-managed. Everybody that are doing whatever they want to. It's actually a bigger market, and we think that we have an opportunity and the right to win in both markets, and that's what matte…”
Stebbings: Lightspeed turned $257M into $1B on Navan for ~4x return
“Lightspeed was two 57 to a billion, so it's just under a four X blended.”
Cohen: Upside Travel raised $200M versus Navan's $4M in the same year
“When we started Navan, There was this company, Upside Travel. We raised four million dollars. They raised 200. Same year, ok?”
Zeev: Navan's gross margins were around 50% before AI adoption
“Gross margins you know, three years ago before AI, our gross margins were around 50%. It was all the cost of support.”
Harry Stebbings: Navan's S-1 shows $613M revenue and 32% growth
“Six hundred and thirteen million revenues, growing 32% year on year, 10,000 customers, a 110% NDR”