Clay Bavor is the co-founder of Sierra, an enterprise AI startup valued at $15.8 billion. Bret Taylor is his co-founder and former chairman of Twitter.
“Brett is actually still an extraordinarily capable software engineer. It's remarkable. So, you know, some of the code that is in production, right, he has written”
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Sierra deliberately took lower valuations than offered in every funding round
“Every one of our rounds, we actually guided to and took a lower price than we could have.”
Clay BavorJul 4, 2026▶ 0:36Open Models vs Frontier Models: Who Actually Wins? | The $100K Token Budget Every Engineer Will Need · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Bavor: Pre-training foundation models is economically unviable for most startups
“The capital expense the ongoing capital expense to create what is effectively a highly perishable bag of floating point numbers just doesn't work. Just doesn't work for any, but a small number of companies.”
Clay BavorJul 4, 2026▶ 6:13Open Models vs Frontier Models: Who Actually Wins? | The $100K Token Budget Every Engineer Will Need · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Bavor: US AI labs avoid open-weights models to protect frontier pricing
“I think if you have the US based labs and hyperscalers developing the frontier models. There's an obvious, you know, like, are they going to compete with themselves and drive, you know, price pressure on the frontier models by, you know, developing and releasi…”
Clay BavorJul 4, 2026▶ 15:23Open Models vs Frontier Models: Who Actually Wins? | The $100K Token Budget Every Engineer Will Need · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Sierra engineers report 3x to 20x productivity boost from AI agents
“We have software engineers who are completely AI-pilled and using Cloud Code, Codex, our own internal agent we call Pinecone that we used to run much of the company on, and they estimate they are between three and 20 times more productive in terms of features …”
Clay BavorJul 4, 2026▶ 16:50Open Models vs Frontier Models: Who Actually Wins? | The $100K Token Budget Every Engineer Will Need · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Bavor: Top engineers spend over $100K annually on AI tokens
“I have heard and I have observed that top engineers who are really leaning in to cloud code codex and so on are spending more than a 100,000 dollars on a run rate basis on tokens per year.”
Clay BavorJul 4, 2026▶ 22:52Open Models vs Frontier Models: Who Actually Wins? | The $100K Token Budget Every Engineer Will Need · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
PredictionOpen · timeframe Jul 2031
Bavor: AI token spend will reach 20% of software developer salaries
“I would not bet on 3.8%. I would bet on much closer to 20%. In software engineering, the gains, to me, seem unequivocally there.”
Clay BavorJul 4, 2026▶ 25:31Open Models vs Frontier Models: Who Actually Wins? | The $100K Token Budget Every Engineer Will Need · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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