Mark Goldberger

Head of Enterprise Sales, Ramp · 1 appearance on the record.

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Mark Goldberger is a technology sales leader who directs enterprise sales and upmarket expansion at the fintech startup Ramp. He previously served as the first enterprise sales representative and a sales leader at TripActions, where he helped generate more than $100 million in ARR.

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The B2B payments market size is $115 trillion
“When you think about the size of this market, payments alone, B to B payments, are a 115 trillion dollars.”
Mark Goldberger Apr 19, 2023 ▶ 51:38 Mark Goldberger: The Ultimate Guide to Enterprise Sales | E1003 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings

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redirected or did not address 3 of 44 assessed questions (7%). Watch them ▸

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229 words/min while actually speaking · 21.1 um and uh per 1k words · 24 false starts per 1k · 27% of pauses land inside a clause

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Everything Mark Goldberger said on 20VC that made the record, most notable first. Filter by type, assessment or year in the ledger →

Insight
Founders should never hire a VP of Sales before an individual seller
“But in no circumstances do you really want to bring in a VP of sales before you have a seller, because they're gonna come in with the preconceived notions That ultimately might not mesh with your particular business model.”
Mark Goldberger Apr 19, 2023 ▶ 7:19 Mark Goldberger: The Ultimate Guide to Enterprise Sales | E1003 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Startups should treat customer logo rights as mandatory, not optional
“So one, I don't ask for it. It's something that's a requirement. So I think just the assumed close there is really important. You know, as part of working with us, we we're excited by we want to support our customers. We love to show off the great companies th…”
Mark Goldberger Apr 19, 2023 ▶ 23:03 Mark Goldberger: The Ultimate Guide to Enterprise Sales | E1003 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Opinion
Software sales leaders recruit within too narrow a candidate profile
“I think there's a challenge from software companies and sales leaders thinking too small inside of a box in terms of the profile of who they're looking for.”
Mark Goldberger Apr 19, 2023 ▶ 2:42 Mark Goldberger: The Ultimate Guide to Enterprise Sales | E1003 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Early enterprise sales require product-customer fit, not product-market fit
“You don't need product market fit In order to sell an enterprise, especially as that first seller, what you need to find is product customer fit.”
Mark Goldberger Apr 19, 2023 ▶ 4:26 Mark Goldberger: The Ultimate Guide to Enterprise Sales | E1003 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Startups should hire their first sales rep before reaching $1M ARR
“I think they should make that first hire as soon as they have a product that they really want to be testing out in the market, and so I think it's a lot sooner than a million ARR, to be honest.”
Mark Goldberger Apr 19, 2023 ▶ 8:49 Mark Goldberger: The Ultimate Guide to Enterprise Sales | E1003 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Logos matter far more than revenue in early-stage sales
“The, those first sales, I don't think about revenue as being important. The revenue or the currency that matters in those first sales are the logos. You need to be acquiring logos. You need to be able to say, hey, this company works with us. That gives you cre…”
Mark Goldberger Apr 19, 2023 ▶ 9:00 Mark Goldberger: The Ultimate Guide to Enterprise Sales | E1003 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Salespeople must never let champions sell to executive buyers alone
“There is not a world that I would ever be comfortable living in where I want to outsource my job to a champion at a prospect.”
Mark Goldberger Apr 19, 2023 ▶ 15:19 Mark Goldberger: The Ultimate Guide to Enterprise Sales | E1003 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Optimists make poor enterprise sales reps; skepticism is required
“People are great fun at parties, but they make for shit sellers. You need someone who is a lot more skeptical, who questions everything.”
Mark Goldberger Apr 19, 2023 ▶ 16:44 Mark Goldberger: The Ultimate Guide to Enterprise Sales | E1003 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Opinion
Top sales performers would fail standard modern hiring rubrics
“The best salespeople I've seen in the last several companies I've been in, none of them would be hired today based on the rubric that sales leaders have.”
Mark Goldberger Apr 19, 2023 ▶ 30:31 Mark Goldberger: The Ultimate Guide to Enterprise Sales | E1003 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Promoted mid-market account executives often fail in enterprise sales
“I've seen mid-market account executives get promoted into enterprise in my past and flame out pretty quickly.”
Mark Goldberger Apr 19, 2023 ▶ 34:42 Mark Goldberger: The Ultimate Guide to Enterprise Sales | E1003 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Opinion
Founders rely too heavily on cash over equity for early sales hires
“When it comes, especially to early sales hires, there's not enough emphasis placed on, on equity in sales. They give out equity for other roles. And I think equity is, is often something that founders don't really think of when it comes to salespeople. They re…”
Mark Goldberger Apr 19, 2023 ▶ 39:00 Mark Goldberger: The Ultimate Guide to Enterprise Sales | E1003 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Opinion
Sales teams avoiding traditional outbound outreach are doing sales wrong
“Traditional outbound is the most important thing, Harry, and if you're not doing it you are doing sales wrong, and the reason why is because pipeline is the most important thing if you want to hit your quota, as we just established, and the way that you build …”
Mark Goldberger Apr 19, 2023 ▶ 43:28 Mark Goldberger: The Ultimate Guide to Enterprise Sales | E1003 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Disclosure
Mark Goldberger closed $13M in revenue during his first year at Navan
“I closed about thirteen million dollars of revenue that first year.”
Mark Goldberger Apr 19, 2023 ▶ 5:00 Mark Goldberger: The Ultimate Guide to Enterprise Sales | E1003 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Asking for an executive buyer intro is the only true champion test
“When it comes to thinking you have a champion, there is only one way to know if they really are a champion for you. You have to test them. And the way that you test them is asking them to take you to the executive buyer.”
Mark Goldberger Apr 19, 2023 ▶ 11:05 Mark Goldberger: The Ultimate Guide to Enterprise Sales | E1003 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Creating sales urgency without discounting requires deep customer pain
“If you don't have enough pain, there's Not a world where I can get you to have the urgency you need short of discounting.”
Mark Goldberger Apr 19, 2023 ▶ 21:32 Mark Goldberger: The Ultimate Guide to Enterprise Sales | E1003 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Sales leaders must allow reps to fail in low-stakes deals
“So you need to create space for them to fail when the stakes are low so they can succeed when the stakes are high.”
Mark Goldberger Apr 19, 2023 ▶ 35:23 Mark Goldberger: The Ultimate Guide to Enterprise Sales | E1003 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Sales managers should cap mistake severity rather than prevent errors entirely
“No matter how much you say the stove is hot, people still want to touch it in order to find out that it's really hot, and so it's my job to make sure the burner's on simmer and not on high, so it's not a catastrophic wound.”
Mark Goldberger Apr 19, 2023 ▶ 36:18 Mark Goldberger: The Ultimate Guide to Enterprise Sales | E1003 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Ramp's enterprise sales team is trending to hit over 300% of quota
“This quarter the enterprise team at ramp is trending to hit more than 300% of their quota, which is pretty insane.”
Mark Goldberger Apr 19, 2023 ▶ 43:11 Mark Goldberger: The Ultimate Guide to Enterprise Sales | E1003 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
A new sales rep's silence in their first month is a red flag
“If someone is not asking a lot of questions, if they're not vocal in that first month or two, to me, that's a red flag that I want to at least dig into.”
Mark Goldberger Apr 19, 2023 ▶ 46:26 Mark Goldberger: The Ultimate Guide to Enterprise Sales | E1003 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Assertion Supported
The B2B payments market size is $115 trillion
“When you think about the size of this market, payments alone, B to B payments, are a 115 trillion dollars.”
Mark Goldberger Apr 19, 2023 ▶ 51:38 Mark Goldberger: The Ultimate Guide to Enterprise Sales | E1003 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Customer success must be involved before closing enterprise deals
“You need to be introducing that implementation and that CS team before the deal is ever closed, right? Implementation, onboarding, how we're going to make you successful as a customer is part of the sales process.”
Mark Goldberger Apr 19, 2023 ▶ 53:28 Mark Goldberger: The Ultimate Guide to Enterprise Sales | E1003 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Assertion Supported
Ramp achieved 400% annual revenue growth over the past year
“We just announced for the last year, we hit 400% revenue growth.”
Mark Goldberger Apr 19, 2023 ▶ 58:20 Mark Goldberger: The Ultimate Guide to Enterprise Sales | E1003 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Assertion Partly supported
Ramp's first sales hires became sales VP and CEO chief of staff
“The two first salespeople at RAMP. The first one now leads half the sales and SDR teams. The second one is chief of staff to our CEO.”
Mark Goldberger Apr 19, 2023 ▶ 31:22 Mark Goldberger: The Ultimate Guide to Enterprise Sales | E1003 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings

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Mark Goldberger: The Ultimate Guide to Enterprise Sales | E1003 · 20VC with Harry Stebbing Apr 19, 2023 41m
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