Mamoon Hamid

General Partner, Kleiner Perkins · 3 appearances on the record.

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Mamoon Hamid is a Silicon Valley venture capitalist who co-founded Social Capital before joining Kleiner Perkins as a partner and managing member in 2017. He is best known for leading early-stage investments in software and technology companies, including Slack, Figma, Rippling, Box, Glean, and Netskope.

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Their most notable supported claim

Assertion Supported
Hamid: FTC and Lina Khan did not block the Adobe-Figma deal
“I don't think, ah, a lot of us put a lot of the blame on Lena Khan, poor Lena Khan because, you know, in our own experience, that's not, that was not the issue for Adobe Figma. It wasn't Lena, ah, or the FTC, ah, there were other issues. So I think it's broadl…”
Mamoon Hamid Oct 21, 2024 ▶ 33:48 Mamoon Hamid: AI - Where Value Accrues, Startups vs Incumbents & Scaling Laws | E1217 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings

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4.3 / 5 directness 4.4 · coherence 4.4 · precision 4.2 · compression 3.8

redirected or did not address 3 of 38 assessed questions (8%). Watch them ▸

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261 words/min while actually speaking · 27.4 um and uh per 1k words · 18.1 false starts per 1k · 34.2% of pauses land inside a clause

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Everything Mamoon Hamid said on 20VC that made the record, most notable first. Filter by type, assessment or year in the ledger →

Opinion
Hamid: Kleiner Perkins avoids backing great founders in bad markets
“Bad markets, the structure of industries where margins are compressed and customers are bad, life's just too hard that way... Probably not.”
Mamoon Hamid Oct 21, 2024 ▶ 44:09 Mamoon Hamid: AI - Where Value Accrues, Startups vs Incumbents & Scaling Laws | E1217 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Disclosure
Hamid: Invested in Slack at a $250M valuation on $500k ARR
“It was 500 K of ARR at the time... Two hundred fifty million post.”
Mamoon Hamid Oct 21, 2024 ▶ 45:00 Mamoon Hamid: AI - Where Value Accrues, Startups vs Incumbents & Scaling Laws | E1217 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Opinion
Hamid: Data-driven VC sourcing platforms are mostly BS
“I think it's mostly BS. Yeah. Yeah. I think many have tried and failed at using the very data oriented approach to investing in startups, when at the end of the day it's about the founders and-”
Mamoon Hamid Oct 21, 2024 ▶ 46:40 Mamoon Hamid: AI - Where Value Accrues, Startups vs Incumbents & Scaling Laws | E1217 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Opinion
Hamid: Incumbents and VCs are over-investing in AI due to FOMO
“Everyone's over-investing right now into this cycle, and because none of us can miss, whether it's the large incumbents, Or us as venture investors back in companies.”
Mamoon Hamid Oct 21, 2024 ▶ 3:10 Mamoon Hamid: AI - Where Value Accrues, Startups vs Incumbents & Scaling Laws | E1217 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Disclosure
Hamid: Kleiner Perkins reserves a 'YOLO bucket' for rule-breaking deals
“And in some ways we have a, what we call like a Yolo bucket in our funds and where you just have this extreme conviction around the founder and the company where you're sort of willing to break the rules.”
Mamoon Hamid Oct 21, 2024 ▶ 7:34 Mamoon Hamid: AI - Where Value Accrues, Startups vs Incumbents & Scaling Laws | E1217 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Opinion
Hamid: AI middleware is overinvested and its value will be fleeting
“There's a lot of time being spent on a lot of the middle layer between the foundation models and the applications. And I think in the middle layers, middleware, things that allow you to use those models better, faster, cheaper and build applications on top. So…”
Mamoon Hamid Oct 21, 2024 ▶ 13:21 Mamoon Hamid: AI - Where Value Accrues, Startups vs Incumbents & Scaling Laws | E1217 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Prediction Open · timeframe Oct 2029
Hamid: OpenAI will figure out gross margins and become highly profitable
“Today it's not a great business, but, you know, I think they're smart enough to figure out how they can get to a gross margin that will allow them to be a highly profitable business over time.”
Mamoon Hamid Oct 21, 2024 ▶ 17:04 Mamoon Hamid: AI - Where Value Accrues, Startups vs Incumbents & Scaling Laws | E1217 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Prediction Open · timeframe Oct 2026
Hamid: LLM token prices will fall another 10x-20x within two years
“So, will it go down to the next two years? I don't know, but it will probably go down by 10 X or 20 X”
Mamoon Hamid Oct 21, 2024 ▶ 17:37 Mamoon Hamid: AI - Where Value Accrues, Startups vs Incumbents & Scaling Laws | E1217 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Prediction Open · timeframe Oct 2034
Hamid: Tech sector will gain $10 trillion in annual spend within decade
“So, 10 trillion of annual spend will get created for technology companies over the next decade.”
Mamoon Hamid Oct 21, 2024 ▶ 18:56 Mamoon Hamid: AI - Where Value Accrues, Startups vs Incumbents & Scaling Laws | E1217 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Hamid: AI revenue will justify CapEx by expanding into global labor markets
“I think the revenue will be there for, because again, we're not just tackling software, linear software, as I call it. We're tackling Like labor, and labor shortages, and things that humans can do, but it's the worst part of their job, or we don't have enough …”
Mamoon Hamid Oct 21, 2024 ▶ 19:13 Mamoon Hamid: AI - Where Value Accrues, Startups vs Incumbents & Scaling Laws | E1217 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Hamid: Venture capital is a business that does not scale with headcount
“It's, we think it's a business that doesn't scale, actually.”
Mamoon Hamid Oct 21, 2024 ▶ 21:35 Mamoon Hamid: AI - Where Value Accrues, Startups vs Incumbents & Scaling Laws | E1217 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Assertion Supported
Hamid: FTC and Lina Khan did not block the Adobe-Figma deal
“I don't think, ah, a lot of us put a lot of the blame on Lena Khan, poor Lena Khan because, you know, in our own experience, that's not, that was not the issue for Adobe Figma. It wasn't Lena, ah, or the FTC, ah, there were other issues. So I think it's broadl…”
Mamoon Hamid Oct 21, 2024 ▶ 33:48 Mamoon Hamid: AI - Where Value Accrues, Startups vs Incumbents & Scaling Laws | E1217 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Hamid: Valuing early-stage startups on revenue multiples is a mistake
“Yeah, I think it's really a mistake to look at revenue multiples at like half a million.”
Mamoon Hamid Oct 21, 2024 ▶ 46:05 Mamoon Hamid: AI - Where Value Accrues, Startups vs Incumbents & Scaling Laws | E1217 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Hamid: Current AI ground-floor value creation will never be repeated
“We will not see this sort of like, At the ground floor level value creation in our lifetimes ever again.”
Mamoon Hamid Oct 21, 2024 ▶ 1:02:20 Mamoon Hamid: AI - Where Value Accrues, Startups vs Incumbents & Scaling Laws | E1217 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
What-if
Hamid: VCs Return More by Holding Winners for Decades
“And in many cases, you don't even want to distribute in those eight years because think about how much you would have made if you would have stayed in, in, in Amazon or Facebook or Google over the course of time it probably would have been much better for thos…”
Mamoon Hamid Oct 31, 2016 ▶ 8:14 20VC: Social Capital's Mamoon Hamid on Disrupting The Venture Model & Advancing Humanity By Solving The World's Toughest Problems
Prediction Open · timeframe Oct 2021
Hamid: Airbnb Will Become a Property Manager and Housing Platform
“I think over time, Airbnb is probably going to take over, like, where people just live. Like, they will become the property manager for people who own homes, and it will become the place, like, the Craigslist for people who want to find a home.”
Mamoon Hamid Oct 31, 2016 ▶ 20:59 20VC: Social Capital's Mamoon Hamid on Disrupting The Venture Model & Advancing Humanity By Solving The World's Toughest Problems
Opinion
Hamid: AI cycle is 10x larger than the 1997 internet boom
“We're in the midst of a super cycle like none we've seen before. The AI super cycle, as you know, and it reminds me of the time when I first came to Silicon Valley in 1997. I was 19 years old, and it was all just roses all around me. It was the rise of the int…”
Mamoon Hamid Oct 21, 2024 ▶ 1:05 Mamoon Hamid: AI - Where Value Accrues, Startups vs Incumbents & Scaling Laws | E1217 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Hamid: AI applications will create trillions in value over next decade
“There are so many things to build on top of this infrastructure, all these frontier models that is going to create so many trillions of value over the next decade.”
Mamoon Hamid Oct 21, 2024 ▶ 2:35 Mamoon Hamid: AI - Where Value Accrues, Startups vs Incumbents & Scaling Laws | E1217 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Disclosure
Kleiner Perkins focuses AI investments on co-pilots for top-earning professions
“We've invested in a lot of application layer companies, and that are solving very specific pain points. And the way we've looked at it pretty simply is, if you think about, we took actually the top 20 jobs in the US, and who makes the most? Simple. And it's do…”
Mamoon Hamid Oct 21, 2024 ▶ 3:26 Mamoon Hamid: AI - Where Value Accrues, Startups vs Incumbents & Scaling Laws | E1217 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Disclosure
Hamid: Kleiner Perkins needs 15-20% ownership on $5M-$10M early-stage checks
“Because as you know, Harry, you know, we have to get our ownership at the early stages where you're investing five to ten million dollars for 15 to 20% for the math to work for our funds.”
Mamoon Hamid Oct 21, 2024 ▶ 7:02 Mamoon Hamid: AI - Where Value Accrues, Startups vs Incumbents & Scaling Laws | E1217 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Assertion Supported
Hamid: AI SaaS startups command $300 to $500 monthly per seat
“What we're seeing right now is that you have seat-based pricing that was like, 30 dollars a month, 40 dollars a month, and now you're getting 300 dollars a month, 400 dollars a month, even 500 dollars a month for the software.”
Mamoon Hamid Oct 21, 2024 ▶ 8:43 Mamoon Hamid: AI - Where Value Accrues, Startups vs Incumbents & Scaling Laws | E1217 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Assertion Supported
Hamid: LLM token prices dropped 200x over the last 18 months
“In the last 18 months the price of a token has gone down by 200 X”
Mamoon Hamid Oct 21, 2024 ▶ 17:21 Mamoon Hamid: AI - Where Value Accrues, Startups vs Incumbents & Scaling Laws | E1217 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Hamid: Aaron Levie's Box IPO dilution led VCs to re-up founder equity
“Aaron has done a great PSA for founders with his equity stake at the IPO, where I think we as investors, board members have done a way better job making sure that our founders get re-upped when, especially when they dip below a certain threshold.”
Mamoon Hamid Oct 21, 2024 ▶ 26:33 Mamoon Hamid: AI - Where Value Accrues, Startups vs Incumbents & Scaling Laws | E1217 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Opinion
Hamid: Avoid founders who rely on top-down market mapping
“I don't like the, we looked at the landscape, and we discovered that this is a great place to build a business. Like, we did a whole market mapping exercise, And the TAM is going to be X billion dollars and, you know, we've got yeah, it is that sort of like th…”
Mamoon Hamid Oct 21, 2024 ▶ 40:49 Mamoon Hamid: AI - Where Value Accrues, Startups vs Incumbents & Scaling Laws | E1217 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings

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Statements about Mamoon Hamid, by other people (4)

Assertion Open
Lemkin: Chamath Palihapitiya has been sued by all his former partners
“Chamath, all his ex-partners have sued him. Mamoon sued them. The Grok guys he sued.”
Jason Lemkin Feb 19, 2026 ▶ 1:15:46 Thrive Raises New $10B Fund | OpenAI Buys OpenClaw | Stripe at $140B: Is Adyen Wildly Undervalued? · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Opinion
Swisher: Mamoon Hamid was the best Series A SaaS investor
“I think the thing, the gift that Mamoon hasn't, I think from the SaaS era, Mamoon, my view is he was the best Series A investor in the SaaS era, period.”
Lucas Swisher Feb 23, 2026 ▶ 50:17 Insights from Coatue's Growth Investor Lucas Swisher · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Opinion
Moore: Mamoon Hamid is not metrics-driven, relies on taste in people
“I think Mamoon is known as someone who is very metrics driven, and I think that could not be more false. He has this incredible taste in people.”
Bucky Moore May 5, 2025 ▶ 58:53 Bucky Moore @ Lightspeed Venture Partners: Why You Cannot Do VC If You Do Not Do Pre-Seed · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Opinion
Grady: Kleiner Perkins partner Mamoon Hamid is an exceptional deal picker
“Somebody who I really admire is Mamoon at Kleiner. I think Mamoon has an exceptional track record of investing in companies that are not at all obvious at the time. And I think about the series B in Figma, which is a round that we looked at and passed on. I th…”
Pat Grady Jul 8, 2024 ▶ 24:59 Pat Grady: Sequoia Partner on Investing Lessons from Doug Leone, Roelof Botha and Alfred Lin | E1174 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings

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Appearances (3)

EpisodeDateSpeaking time
Mamoon Hamid: AI - Where Value Accrues, Startups vs Incumbents & Scaling Laws | E1217 · 20 Oct 21, 2024 42m
20VC: Kleiner Perkins' Mamoon Hamid on The Strategy Behind The New $600m "Back To The Futu May 13, 2019 20m
20VC: Social Capital's Mamoon Hamid on Disrupting The Venture Model & Advancing Humanity B Oct 31, 2016 18m
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