Lauryn Isford

Head of Product Growth, Notion · 1 appearance on the record.

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Lauryn Isford is a product leader specializing in onboarding, user activation, and self-serve growth across SaaS platforms. She currently serves as Head of Product Growth at Notion and previously led growth at Airtable.

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The vast majority of PLG product signups never return after one session
“The large majority of users who sign up in a product led motion for a consumer product or a SaaS tool will not come back.”
Lauryn Isford Jul 19, 2023 ▶ 16:52 Lauryn Isford: Product Growth Secrets from Facebook, Airtable, BlueBottle, Dropbox & Notion | E1037 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings

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4.6 / 5 directness 4.9 · coherence 5 · precision 4.5 · compression 4.1

answered every one of 42 assessed questions directly

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Everything Lauryn Isford said on 20VC that made the record, most notable first. Filter by type, assessment or year in the ledger →

Insight
A heavy bias towards product experimentation is a growth hiring red flag
“The biggest red flag to me is when I hear a heavy bias towards experimentation. So maybe requiring every change made in the product to be an experiment or over focusing on optimizing, adding friction, removing friction raising prices, reducing prices versus ma…”
Lauryn Isford Jul 19, 2023 ▶ 36:28 Lauryn Isford: Product Growth Secrets from Facebook, Airtable, BlueBottle, Dropbox & Notion | E1037 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Tooltip pop-ups fail because users cannot process that much information quickly
“You know, you sign up for something and you see eight or 10 or maybe even 20 different pop-ups that define terms for you and ask you to learn a bunch of things, and the reality is that nobody's actually learning that many things that quickly.”
Lauryn Isford Jul 19, 2023 ▶ 13:28 Lauryn Isford: Product Growth Secrets from Facebook, Airtable, BlueBottle, Dropbox & Notion | E1037 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Isford: Consumer growth expertise does not translate directly to B2B SaaS
“One mistake I've seen is assuming that best growth practices and experience in consumer will translate to SaaS and the other way around. That risk was taken on me when I started at Airtable. I actually came from Meta, and so I was jumping from consumer to SaaS…”
Lauryn Isford Jul 19, 2023 ▶ 39:07 Lauryn Isford: Product Growth Secrets from Facebook, Airtable, BlueBottle, Dropbox & Notion | E1037 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
SaaS growth requires bold product changes, not consumer-style micro-optimizations
“I find that in consumer growth, there tends to be an over-focus on very small detail changes. Whereas in SaaS, it's more important to make bigger or bolder changes that really react to the user's intent so that their behavior will change.”
Lauryn Isford Jul 19, 2023 ▶ 41:15 Lauryn Isford: Product Growth Secrets from Facebook, Airtable, BlueBottle, Dropbox & Notion | E1037 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
PLG and sales-assisted growth motions inevitably compete for enterprise revenue
“At some point, the two motions will compete. So a dollar earned through a freemium or self-serve motion from PLG may be a trade-off against two or five dollars earned through closing a contract in a sales assisted motion. And it's very important to be explicit…”
Lauryn Isford Jul 19, 2023 ▶ 56:59 Lauryn Isford: Product Growth Secrets from Facebook, Airtable, BlueBottle, Dropbox & Notion | E1037 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Isford: Most tech companies build products with an unconscious Western bias
“I find that especially in technology, many businesses build with a Western bias and it's important to Really understand if you're serving all customer needs, especially when you have a big international customer base.”
Lauryn Isford Jul 19, 2023 ▶ 6:32 Lauryn Isford: Product Growth Secrets from Facebook, Airtable, BlueBottle, Dropbox & Notion | E1037 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Isford: SaaS firms wrongly view PLG and sales as mutually exclusive
“Something that I think we did really well at Airtable is thinking of PLG, or that product-led motion, and the sales-led motion or sales-assisted motion as being part of one engine. For the business. I find that commonly businesses will say, well, I need to pic…”
Lauryn Isford Jul 19, 2023 ▶ 7:39 Lauryn Isford: Product Growth Secrets from Facebook, Airtable, BlueBottle, Dropbox & Notion | E1037 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Isford: Early-stage startups should focus on a single go-to-market motion
“So I will say that for an early stage business, just finding its footing, developing product market fit, monetizing customers for the first time or in those early chapters of monetization, picking one motion makes sense.”
Lauryn Isford Jul 19, 2023 ▶ 8:58 Lauryn Isford: Product Growth Secrets from Facebook, Airtable, BlueBottle, Dropbox & Notion | E1037 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Isford: Effective onboarding paces information based on immediate user value
“So the real impact, in my opinion, comes from being patient and breaking down What actually the user needs to know right now to be able to find value that's relevant to them.”
Lauryn Isford Jul 19, 2023 ▶ 13:48 Lauryn Isford: Product Growth Secrets from Facebook, Airtable, BlueBottle, Dropbox & Notion | E1037 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Isford: Effective activation metrics must correlate with 6-month retention
“An activation metric should correlate with long-term retention. So if you activate this week, you should be more likely to be active in six months. It should also demonstrate both retention and also sophistication. Some sort of use that indicates that a habit …”
Lauryn Isford Jul 19, 2023 ▶ 19:53 Lauryn Isford: Product Growth Secrets from Facebook, Airtable, BlueBottle, Dropbox & Notion | E1037 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Isford: Narrow activation metrics measure company projections, not user value
“The reason why I don't like very, very narrow activation metrics is They tend to over focus to me on what the company projects as being value for the user rather than measuring if the user has found value themselves, which is often best measured by them coming…”
Lauryn Isford Jul 19, 2023 ▶ 20:37 Lauryn Isford: Product Growth Secrets from Facebook, Airtable, BlueBottle, Dropbox & Notion | E1037 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Baseline B2B PLG retention targets 10% to 20% long-term team engagement
“I would say you want the large majority of signups to come back to your product again in the first seven days. Ideally, roughly 15 to 20% of teams using your product continue to collaborate after a month, and over the long term, somewhere in the order of 10 to…”
Lauryn Isford Jul 19, 2023 ▶ 23:14 Lauryn Isford: Product Growth Secrets from Facebook, Airtable, BlueBottle, Dropbox & Notion | E1037 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Isford: Missing product goals due to disproven hypotheses is a great outcome
“There's a difference between missing a goal because your hypothesis was disproven and missing a goal because you didn't execute well. So in the first case, you've actually learned something really valuable that a hypothesis that you held in building a product …”
Lauryn Isford Jul 19, 2023 ▶ 46:21 Lauryn Isford: Product Growth Secrets from Facebook, Airtable, BlueBottle, Dropbox & Notion | E1037 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Isford: Prioritize Directional Signals Over Statistical Significance in Niche Experiments
“In some cases, if you're making a change that's focused on a pretty narrow set of customers, you may never actually get to that significance. It might take months, right? Or even a year. So in general, I worry less about how long to run an experiment and think…”
Lauryn Isford Jul 19, 2023 ▶ 51:08 Lauryn Isford: Product Growth Secrets from Facebook, Airtable, BlueBottle, Dropbox & Notion | E1037 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Isford: YouTube and community strategies fail to drive enterprise discovery
“If you have an amazing YouTube strategy or community strategy, That will bring in lots of passionate folks who want to give your product a try, but it may not actually be the way to get a large enterprise to discover who you are or to learn what you offer.”
Lauryn Isford Jul 19, 2023 ▶ 53:19 Lauryn Isford: Product Growth Secrets from Facebook, Airtable, BlueBottle, Dropbox & Notion | E1037 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Opinion
Isford: $10 referral credits are an outdated growth tactic
“Referral programs. They still exist, but you probably haven't seen one in a while, or if you have, you probably haven't referred someone in a while. The 10 dollar credit for referring a friend seems to be a little outdated.”
Lauryn Isford Jul 19, 2023 ▶ 56:11 Lauryn Isford: Product Growth Secrets from Facebook, Airtable, BlueBottle, Dropbox & Notion | E1037 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Isford: Early startups shouldn't spend time perfecting growth metrics
“That exercise is not one I would spend too much time on because the reality is, especially in earlier stages, your customer base is going to evolve and change pretty dramatically in the years following when you define that metric and you'll probably want to ch…”
Lauryn Isford Jul 19, 2023 ▶ 0:11 Lauryn Isford: Product Growth Secrets from Facebook, Airtable, BlueBottle, Dropbox & Notion | E1037 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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Blue Bottle's e-commerce customers were completely different from its cafe regulars
“The customers most likely to want blue bottle coffee at home would be the same customers who go to our cafes. And what we found in actually visiting Many of our online customers is that they were completely different and that someone who's making coffee at hom…”
Lauryn Isford Jul 19, 2023 ▶ 4:47 Lauryn Isford: Product Growth Secrets from Facebook, Airtable, BlueBottle, Dropbox & Notion | E1037 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Isford: Sales teams in PLG companies require a distinct team composition
“If you decide that something like a product-led motion makes sense and that users should be able to experience your product and learn its value by being inside the product and becoming a user, then developing a sales team later on takes on a very different fla…”
Lauryn Isford Jul 19, 2023 ▶ 9:50 Lauryn Isford: Product Growth Secrets from Facebook, Airtable, BlueBottle, Dropbox & Notion | E1037 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Isford: Onboarding should ask user intent directly rather than inferring from email domains
“Something that we do at Notion that I think generally is tried and true is to ask someone what they're here for. Many businesses will actually cast or assume or segment that a user is a certain kind of user. Maybe they sign up with a Gmail account, and one mig…”
Lauryn Isford Jul 19, 2023 ▶ 14:51 Lauryn Isford: Product Growth Secrets from Facebook, Airtable, BlueBottle, Dropbox & Notion | E1037 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Assertion Supported
The vast majority of PLG product signups never return after one session
“The large majority of users who sign up in a product led motion for a consumer product or a SaaS tool will not come back.”
Lauryn Isford Jul 19, 2023 ▶ 16:52 Lauryn Isford: Product Growth Secrets from Facebook, Airtable, BlueBottle, Dropbox & Notion | E1037 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Passive onboarding checklists achieve only a 10% user opt-in rate
“Something passive like that, where you can choose to engage with educational material, is probably only going to have about a 10% opt-in rate, so 90% of your customers will never actually learn any of those things.”
Lauryn Isford Jul 19, 2023 ▶ 24:36 Lauryn Isford: Product Growth Secrets from Facebook, Airtable, BlueBottle, Dropbox & Notion | E1037 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Opinion
Lauryn Isford praises Airtable and Linear for market-leading onboarding
“I think Airtable's onboarding is very good. I also think linear's onboarding is very good.”
Lauryn Isford Jul 19, 2023 ▶ 25:42 Lauryn Isford: Product Growth Secrets from Facebook, Airtable, BlueBottle, Dropbox & Notion | E1037 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Experiential onboarding requiring user action beats passive text explanations
“In general, something more visual, more progressive, and more experiential is generally better. And so what I mean by that is asking a user to do something in the case of linear entering a command. Showing somebody the visualization of what will manifest in th…”
Lauryn Isford Jul 19, 2023 ▶ 25:47 Lauryn Isford: Product Growth Secrets from Facebook, Airtable, BlueBottle, Dropbox & Notion | E1037 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings

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Lauryn Isford: Product Growth Secrets from Facebook, Airtable, BlueBottle, Dropbox & Notio Jul 19, 2023 41m
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