Cem Sertoglu

Managing Partner, Bek Ventures · 1 appearance on the record.

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Cem Sertoglu is a venture capitalist who led UiPath's seed round, turning a $16.5 million investment into over $2.1 billion. He is the Managing Partner of Bek Ventures and previously founded SelectMinds and co-founded Earlybird's Digital East Fund.

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Assertion Supported
Cem Sertoglu: UiPath grew $1M to $100M ARR in 21 months
“I believe a UiPath went from a million to a hundred million ARR in 21 months. At the time that was, I think, the fastest ever.”
Cem Sertoglu Nov 20, 2024 ▶ 0:18 Cem Sertoglu: Lessons from the Greatest Venture Investment in European History | E1228 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings

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4.5 / 5 directness 4.8 · coherence 4.7 · precision 4.5 · compression 4.1

answered every one of 24 assessed questions directly

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242 words/min while actually speaking · 49 um and uh per 1k words · 19.8 false starts per 1k · 32.9% of pauses land inside a clause

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Everything Cem Sertoglu said on 20VC that made the record, most notable first. Filter by type, assessment or year in the ledger →

Assertion Supported
Cem Sertoglu: UiPath grew $1M to $100M ARR in 21 months
“I believe a UiPath went from a million to a hundred million ARR in 21 months. At the time that was, I think, the fastest ever.”
Cem Sertoglu Nov 20, 2024 ▶ 0:18 Cem Sertoglu: Lessons from the Greatest Venture Investment in European History | E1228 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Sertoglu: VCs sell time, attention, and portfolio capacity, not cash
“I think our, what we sell is not our cash. The cash is available. It's I mean, the seed and a rounds are flush with New capital coming in all the time. So I think what we sell is our time and attention and capacity, and we're selling one of those 20 slots in t…”
Cem Sertoglu Nov 20, 2024 ▶ 23:49 Cem Sertoglu: Lessons from the Greatest Venture Investment in European History | E1228 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Disclosure
Sertoglu: We intentionally disagree with founders during term sheets to test dynamics
“We usually try to disagree with the founders in the term sheet process at least once so that we kind of see the dynamics of what happens around that.”
Cem Sertoglu Nov 20, 2024 ▶ 27:05 Cem Sertoglu: Lessons from the Greatest Venture Investment in European History | E1228 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Opinion
Sertoglu: Founders originating from Eastern Europe typically lack executive polish
“Our Eastern European-rooted founders are not polished.”
Cem Sertoglu Nov 20, 2024 ▶ 38:33 Cem Sertoglu: Lessons from the Greatest Venture Investment in European History | E1228 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Sertoglu: Every single European VC passed on UiPath at least once
“I think that every single European VC has passed on UiPath at least once.”
Cem Sertoglu Nov 20, 2024 ▶ 41:30 Cem Sertoglu: Lessons from the Greatest Venture Investment in European History | E1228 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Disclosure
Sertoglu: Earlybird returned 3-4x its fund via UiPath secondaries before IPO
“We were still the largest shareholder going into the IPO in the company but you know, we had also realized you know, already, I think Three, four times the fund at that point.”
Cem Sertoglu Nov 20, 2024 ▶ 48:16 Cem Sertoglu: Lessons from the Greatest Venture Investment in European History | E1228 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Sertoglu: Early-stage VCs lose their edge once a startup goes public
“Once the stock is public, we felt that we have lost our entire edge in trying to Manage that investment. And I think as early stage investors, our job is to then leave that decision to our LPs.”
Cem Sertoglu Nov 20, 2024 ▶ 48:49 Cem Sertoglu: Lessons from the Greatest Venture Investment in European History | E1228 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Assertion Supported
Sertoglu: 10-year fund life is too short for early-stage VC funds
“I think a 10 year life for a seed and a Focused fund is too short. This is evidenced by the fact that almost, I don't know a single early stage VC fund that was liquid by year 10.”
Cem Sertoglu Nov 20, 2024 ▶ 51:25 Cem Sertoglu: Lessons from the Greatest Venture Investment in European History | E1228 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Sertoglu: Downside protection terms like liquidation preferences are overrated
“I think it's overrated. You know, as I mentioned before, our deals, our investments, are not real investments the way you go by Apple shares on the stock market. They are long-term contracts around a vision, and ultimately it doesn't really move the needle tha…”
Cem Sertoglu Nov 20, 2024 ▶ 54:10 Cem Sertoglu: Lessons from the Greatest Venture Investment in European History | E1228 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Sertoglu: A VC Fund's Vintage Is the Single Biggest Predictor of Performance
“I think a very humbling fact is the biggest predictor of a fund's performance is its vintage.”
Cem Sertoglu Nov 20, 2024 ▶ 57:34 Cem Sertoglu: Lessons from the Greatest Venture Investment in European History | E1228 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Prediction Open · timeframe Nov 2029
Sertoglu: The majority of 2021 vintage venture funds will not return 1x
“I haven't seen the underlying data. I would suspect that is probably the case. I, I'm afraid that is a right prediction.”
Cem Sertoglu Nov 20, 2024 ▶ 58:21 Cem Sertoglu: Lessons from the Greatest Venture Investment in European History | E1228 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Disclosure
Cem Sertoglu: Bek Ventures Fund 1 achieved 20x MOIC, 85% from UiPath
“The best single venture investment, you know, 16 and a half million investments that has brought us back to .1000000000 dollars in proceeds. So fund one is 20 time multiple on invested capital. 2.7 of that is non UiPath. So about 85% of the proceeds of fund on…”
Cem Sertoglu Nov 20, 2024 ▶ 0:00 Cem Sertoglu: Lessons from the Greatest Venture Investment in European History | E1228 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Opinion
Sertoglu: Early-stage VC cannot be commoditized or scaled with capital
“I don't think it is getting commoditized because it's limited. It's, you cannot scale it by just pouring money on it.”
Cem Sertoglu Nov 20, 2024 ▶ 6:24 Cem Sertoglu: Lessons from the Greatest Venture Investment in European History | E1228 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
What-if
Sertoglu: Doubling UiPath's seed valuation would not have impacted fund returns
“For UiPath, if we'd done the seed round at twice the valuation, it wouldn't have really, you know, made a, made any difference. It would have still been a fantastic outcome.”
Cem Sertoglu Nov 20, 2024 ▶ 10:10 Cem Sertoglu: Lessons from the Greatest Venture Investment in European History | E1228 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Disclosure
Sertoglu: Passing on Bolt's seed round was Bek Ventures' biggest loss
“I mean, one example that's probably our biggest loss is we met Bolt, the car ailing company, and they were called Taxify at the time, a small Baltics ride-hailing company, and even though, you know, Marcus, the founder, was extraordinary, we really couldn't se…”
Cem Sertoglu Nov 20, 2024 ▶ 12:31 Cem Sertoglu: Lessons from the Greatest Venture Investment in European History | E1228 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Disclosure
Sertoglu: Bek Ventures' early UiPath check returned 12.5x the entire fund
“In the case of UiPath, I mean, we thought it could return the fund. I mean, it has returned 12 and a half times the fund already, so that's been, you know, very miscalculated analysis, but we do do it.”
Cem Sertoglu Nov 20, 2024 ▶ 15:21 Cem Sertoglu: Lessons from the Greatest Venture Investment in European History | E1228 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Sertoglu: Headcount is the easiest metric for startup founders to inflate
“First of all, ours is a, is an industry that fetishizes growth. And as you know, the easiest metric to grow for a founder is headcount.”
Cem Sertoglu Nov 20, 2024 ▶ 19:21 Cem Sertoglu: Lessons from the Greatest Venture Investment in European History | E1228 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Sertoglu: Venture capital is the only asset class where assets choose investors
“You know, we're the only asset class where the asset chooses the investor, right?”
Cem Sertoglu Nov 20, 2024 ▶ 21:00 Cem Sertoglu: Lessons from the Greatest Venture Investment in European History | E1228 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Sertoglu: Seed and Series A Rounds Are Alignment Contracts, Not Investments
“The early rounds are not real rounds. There are contracts where you're demonstrating alignment around, around a target that is very far out ahead. I mean, every early stage check, you're buying a very out of the money call option on these businesses. So it's n…”
Cem Sertoglu Nov 20, 2024 ▶ 25:59 Cem Sertoglu: Lessons from the Greatest Venture Investment in European History | E1228 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Disclosure
Sertoglu: Bek Ventures Passed on Rushed Deals, Not High Valuations, in 2021
“In 2021, when the market was in a frenzy, we would never categorically pass on evaluation, so we've written very expensive checks in that period, but we would categorically pass on not having enough time to understand the business and digest the opportunity”
Cem Sertoglu Nov 20, 2024 ▶ 28:15 Cem Sertoglu: Lessons from the Greatest Venture Investment in European History | E1228 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Disclosure
Sertoglu: Bek Ventures partners committed nearly 10% to their $250M fund
“We think a lot about GP commitment size. We have a very high GP commitment in the fund, and what is it? It's close to 10% of a two hundred and fifty million dollar fund.”
Cem Sertoglu Nov 20, 2024 ▶ 32:02 Cem Sertoglu: Lessons from the Greatest Venture Investment in European History | E1228 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Opinion
Sertoglu: Holding Emerging VC Managers to High GP Commitments Is Inexcusable
“I think that's inexcusable to hold a young emerging manager to that to that hurdle.”
Cem Sertoglu Nov 20, 2024 ▶ 33:26 Cem Sertoglu: Lessons from the Greatest Venture Investment in European History | E1228 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Insight
Sertoglu: VC reserves exist for overlooked companies that defy standard molds
“And that's what we, that's what our reserves are for. Our reserves are for those companies that will be misunderstood by the market or overlooked by the market because they don't fit into the mold.”
Cem Sertoglu Nov 20, 2024 ▶ 41:55 Cem Sertoglu: Lessons from the Greatest Venture Investment in European History | E1228 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Disclosure
Sertoglu: Earlybird sold UiPath secondaries at a premium to primary rounds
“I mean, our secondaries were all at a premium to the primary round. So there was, each round was so oversubscribed that we were able to actually sell at a premium our share class you know, shares that are at a lower class on the liquidation stack.”
Cem Sertoglu Nov 20, 2024 ▶ 47:44 Cem Sertoglu: Lessons from the Greatest Venture Investment in European History | E1228 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings

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