Feb 11, 2019 · 30m · 20vc
20VC: Techstars Founder David Cohen on Why Seed Investing Is A Different Asset Class To Venture, What Makes The Best And The Worst Board Members & Why Every Company Has To Have A Pessimist In The Room
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In this episode of The 20 Minute VC, host Harry Stebbings interviews Techstars founder and co-CEO David Cohen on the dynamics of seed-stage investing, early startup governance, evaluating founder integrity, and scaling a global accelerator network.
How this conversation actually went
Every chapter scored 0–10 on four independent dynamics. Hover any point for the reasoning behind the score. Harry holds 37.2% of the talking time here. How this is scored →
Harry as informed peer 3.5 Guest teaching 4.5 Guest disagreement 1.3 Harry pushing back 1.7
speaking balance: gold is Harry, purple is the guest (3 minute bins)
Sharpest disagreement ▶ 8:34 Reframing the balance question
David gently challenges Harry's premise on balancing optimism and realism, insisting that an investor must separate long-term mission belief from operational reality rather than blurring them.
Hardest push from Harry ▶ 17:31 Challenging bridge rounds with Mike Maples quoteHarry actively pushes back on bridge round dynamics by bringing up Mike Maples' claim that 99% of bridges are bridges to nowhere, forcing David to clarify his stance.
Biggest teaching moment ▶ 13:04 Board seat advice for HarryDavid directly educates Harry on boardroom etiquette for his first board seat, cautioning against the dangerous role of a board member with confidently held misinformation.
Harry holds his own ▶ 20:10 Invoking Jeff Fagnan on seed reserve strategiesHarry demonstrates crisp domain authority by bringing up Jeff Fagnan's critique of early-stage portfolio stack-ranking, prompting a detailed reserve strategy breakdown from David.
the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
| Chapter | Topic | Harry as informed peer | Guest teaching | Guest disagreement | Harry pushing back | Why |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| David Cohen's Journey into Entrepreneurship and Techstars | 2 | 4 | 1 | 1 | Harry prompts David on his entrepreneurial journey and asks about his moment of integrity framework. David explains how founder honesty during a crisis dictates long-term trust, offering a guiding framework for early-stage investors. | |
| Maintaining Balance: The Pessimist in the Room | 3 | 5 | 2 | 2 | Harry asks how investors balance founder vision with operational realism when things go off track. David reframes the premise, arguing that investors must separate long-term mission optimism from short-term operational reality. | |
| Establishing Boards, Governance, and Evolving Board Member Styles | 3 | 6 | 1 | 1 | Harry asks for personal mentorship regarding his newly assumed board seat. David provides clear coaching on adding unique value, remaining helpful, and avoiding high-confidence misinformation in boardrooms. | |
| Convertible Notes, Valuation Caps, and Bridge Financings | 5 | 5 | 2 | 3 | Harry pushes David on convertible notes by citing Mike Maples' view that bridge rounds are almost always bridges to nowhere. David outlines how to structure valuation cap clauses to test founder claims and call out bluffs. | |
| Scaling Techstars, Reserve Strategies, and Institutional Growth | 6 | 4 | 1 | 2 | Harry demonstrates strong venture knowledge by invoking Jeff Fagnan's stance against stack-ranking early-stage companies for reserve strategy. David explains Techstars' tiered reserve allocation model across hundreds of annual investments. | |
| Quickfire Round: Books, Habits, Superpowers, and Portfolio Investments | 2 | 3 | 1 | 1 | In a rapid-fire session, David shares personal routines, international travel superpowers, and his thesis that seed investing is a fundamentally distinct asset class from traditional venture capital. |
Statements from this episode (14)
Stebbings: David Cohen's portfolio companies have created over $80B in value
“To date, David has backed hundreds of startups, including the likes of, check this out, Uber, SendGrid, Twilio, ClassPass, PillPack, and many more. In total, these investments have gone on to create more than eighty billion dollars in value”
Cohen: A founder's reaction when confronted reveals their true character
“What they say in that moment of integrity is how you can really tell how a person will behave and their value.”
Cohen: Trust between founders and investors is rebuildable if openly discussed
“So again, we all do things wrong, but if I can trust that we're going to be able to talk about that openly, especially in a board or investor context, or this works in personal life as well, Then I think it's easy to rebuild almost no matter what the transgres…”
David Cohen: Having too many optimists can kill entire companies
“And I've literally seen it kill entire companies by just being too many optimists, hanging out, spending each other up.”
Cohen: Startups should form a board of directors at the seed stage
“Yesterday. I think that companies need to put it in as soon as possible. And, you know, I think entrepreneurs have this tendency to think of the board as this Overlord controlling things and they can fire me and all that, but that's not necessarily the case, r…”
Cohen: High Confidence with Low Accuracy Makes the Worst Board Member
“And so the worst form of board member is someone with confidently held misinformation, right? Where they believe this is the case and this is how this works, but actually it's high confidence, but low accuracy.”
Cohen: Structure investment terms to test and hedge founder predictions
“So when you're getting a story from the entrepreneurs about what's going to happen, try to find ways to make the terms match that story and the eventuality that that story may not happen.”
Cohen: Nearly 98% of startup bridge rounds are bridges to nowhere
“Yeah, my stats are only a 98%, so I'm not sure if I get it right, but it's somewhere in that zone. No, they often are bridges to nowhere”
Cohen: Early-stage startups should raise 18 to 24 months of runway
“The company has, but I think at the seed stage, I would look for a minimum of 18 months. Today, I prefer two years, actually. So, sort of seed and series A investing.”
Techstars invests in roughly 500 startups per year
“We're investing in about 500 companies a year at this point across these 50 accelerators that you mentioned.”
80% of Techstars accelerator companies raise follow-on funding
“80% of our accelerator companies are going to raise around from somewhere.”
Techstars maintains a 1:1 reserve ratio for larger follow-on investments
“When we do make a larger investment, we actually reserve one-to-one. So for every dollar we put in, we keep a dollar in reserve, and then we, you know, over time sort of reallocate that as needed and think about our reserves as a strategic part of what we do.”
Techstars deploys $50M-$75M annually into accelerator investments alone
“We're investing 50, seventy-five million dollars a year just in the accelerator level plus the fall on capital.”
David Cohen: Seed and angel investing are not venture capital
“I believe that angel investing, seed investing is a completely different thing than venture capital. I don't think it's part of venture capital. I think that it's a different type of asset, which has different needs and requirements and has a different perform…”