Apr 7, 2017 · 27m · 20vc

20VC: How To Create FOMO For Investors, How To Manage VC Conversations & A Repeatable Process For Learning New Things with Anna Shedletsky, Founder & CEO @ Instrumental.ai

Anna Shedletsky · 17m spoken Harry Stebbings · 7m spoken
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In this episode of The 20 Minute VC, host Harry Stebbings interviews Anna Shedletsky, Founder and CEO of Instrumental, about transitioning from Apple Watch product design to founding a hardware AI startup. Shedletsky shares actionable frameworks for founder domain mastery, candidate screening, engineering task prioritization, and strategic fundraising.

How this conversation actually went

Every chapter scored 0–10 on four independent dynamics. Hover any point for the reasoning behind the score. Harry holds 30.3% of the talking time here. How this is scored →

Harry as informed peer 3.2 Guest teaching 4.6 Guest disagreement 1.2 Harry pushing back 2.0
05100:0010:0020:002:17–5:12 · Harry as informed peer 2/10 Anna's Background & The Genesis of Instrumental Harry welcomes Anna and asks standard background questions about her transition from Apple to founding Instrumental. Anna explains the difference between building one prototype and mass-producing millions of units, setting up the problem Instrumental solves.5:12–11:26 · Harry as informed peer 2/10 Key Takeaways & Cultural Values from Apple Anna lays out Apple core values and walks Harry through her structured 5-step methodology for learning new disciplines. Harry assumes the role of an eager learner, making light self-deprecating remarks about being a new VC.11:27–15:58 · Harry as informed peer 4/10 Culture Screening and Diversity Harry challenges Anna's culture screening process, pointing out that 'likability' filters can create team homogeneity and reduce diversity. Anna reframes culture screening as a search for passion, then explains how hardware engineers approach software stack-ranking.16:03–20:26 · Harry as informed peer 5/10 Unconventional Fundraising & Creating FOMO Anna explains how she engineered fundraising FOMO using a Y Combinator interview deadline, bypassing the usual chicken-and-egg term sheet dilemma. Harry validates her strategy using his own perspective as an active venture capitalist.20:28–25:19 · Harry as informed peer 3/10 Managing Fundraising Risks & Pulled Term Sheets Anna cautions founders against closing off investor discussions early due to the risk of pulled term sheets. The segment finishes with a lighthearted quick-fire round on CEO challenges, Tolkien, and unloved industrial software.2:17–5:12 · Guest teaching 3/10 Anna's Background & The Genesis of Instrumental Harry welcomes Anna and asks standard background questions about her transition from Apple to founding Instrumental. Anna explains the difference between building one prototype and mass-producing millions of units, setting up the problem Instrumental solves.5:12–11:26 · Guest teaching 6/10 Key Takeaways & Cultural Values from Apple Anna lays out Apple core values and walks Harry through her structured 5-step methodology for learning new disciplines. Harry assumes the role of an eager learner, making light self-deprecating remarks about being a new VC.11:27–15:58 · Guest teaching 5/10 Culture Screening and Diversity Harry challenges Anna's culture screening process, pointing out that 'likability' filters can create team homogeneity and reduce diversity. Anna reframes culture screening as a search for passion, then explains how hardware engineers approach software stack-ranking.16:03–20:26 · Guest teaching 5/10 Unconventional Fundraising & Creating FOMO Anna explains how she engineered fundraising FOMO using a Y Combinator interview deadline, bypassing the usual chicken-and-egg term sheet dilemma. Harry validates her strategy using his own perspective as an active venture capitalist.20:28–25:19 · Guest teaching 4/10 Managing Fundraising Risks & Pulled Term Sheets Anna cautions founders against closing off investor discussions early due to the risk of pulled term sheets. The segment finishes with a lighthearted quick-fire round on CEO challenges, Tolkien, and unloved industrial software.2:17–5:12 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Anna's Background & The Genesis of Instrumental Harry welcomes Anna and asks standard background questions about her transition from Apple to founding Instrumental. Anna explains the difference between building one prototype and mass-producing millions of units, setting up the problem Instrumental solves.5:12–11:26 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Key Takeaways & Cultural Values from Apple Anna lays out Apple core values and walks Harry through her structured 5-step methodology for learning new disciplines. Harry assumes the role of an eager learner, making light self-deprecating remarks about being a new VC.11:27–15:58 · Guest disagreement 2/10 Culture Screening and Diversity Harry challenges Anna's culture screening process, pointing out that 'likability' filters can create team homogeneity and reduce diversity. Anna reframes culture screening as a search for passion, then explains how hardware engineers approach software stack-ranking.16:03–20:26 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Unconventional Fundraising & Creating FOMO Anna explains how she engineered fundraising FOMO using a Y Combinator interview deadline, bypassing the usual chicken-and-egg term sheet dilemma. Harry validates her strategy using his own perspective as an active venture capitalist.20:28–25:19 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Managing Fundraising Risks & Pulled Term Sheets Anna cautions founders against closing off investor discussions early due to the risk of pulled term sheets. The segment finishes with a lighthearted quick-fire round on CEO challenges, Tolkien, and unloved industrial software.2:17–5:12 · Harry pushing back 1/10 Anna's Background & The Genesis of Instrumental Harry welcomes Anna and asks standard background questions about her transition from Apple to founding Instrumental. Anna explains the difference between building one prototype and mass-producing millions of units, setting up the problem Instrumental solves.5:12–11:26 · Harry pushing back 2/10 Key Takeaways & Cultural Values from Apple Anna lays out Apple core values and walks Harry through her structured 5-step methodology for learning new disciplines. Harry assumes the role of an eager learner, making light self-deprecating remarks about being a new VC.11:27–15:58 · Harry pushing back 4/10 Culture Screening and Diversity Harry challenges Anna's culture screening process, pointing out that 'likability' filters can create team homogeneity and reduce diversity. Anna reframes culture screening as a search for passion, then explains how hardware engineers approach software stack-ranking.16:03–20:26 · Harry pushing back 2/10 Unconventional Fundraising & Creating FOMO Anna explains how she engineered fundraising FOMO using a Y Combinator interview deadline, bypassing the usual chicken-and-egg term sheet dilemma. Harry validates her strategy using his own perspective as an active venture capitalist.20:28–25:19 · Harry pushing back 1/10 Managing Fundraising Risks & Pulled Term Sheets Anna cautions founders against closing off investor discussions early due to the risk of pulled term sheets. The segment finishes with a lighthearted quick-fire round on CEO challenges, Tolkien, and unloved industrial software.

speaking balance: gold is Harry, purple is the guest (3 minute bins)

0:00 · Harry 82.1% · guest 17.9%0:00 · Harry 82.1% · guest 17.9%3:00 · Harry 13.8% · guest 86.2%3:00 · Harry 13.8% · guest 86.2%6:00 · Harry 14.4% · guest 85.6%6:00 · Harry 14.4% · guest 85.6%9:00 · Harry 15.3% · guest 84.7%9:00 · Harry 15.3% · guest 84.7%12:00 · Harry 13.7% · guest 86.3%12:00 · Harry 13.7% · guest 86.3%15:00 · Harry 20.9% · guest 79.1%15:00 · Harry 20.9% · guest 79.1%18:00 · Harry 22.5% · guest 77.5%18:00 · Harry 22.5% · guest 77.5%21:00 · Harry 23.7% · guest 76.3%21:00 · Harry 23.7% · guest 76.3%24:00 · Harry 65.5% · guest 34.5%24:00 · Harry 65.5% · guest 34.5%27:00 · Harry 100% · guest 0%27:00 · Harry 100% · guest 0%
Sharpest disagreement ▶ 16:50 Rejection of standard fundraising dogma

Anna rejects the conventional wisdom that founders need an existing term sheet to create fundraising FOMO, outlining a creative work-around using YC interview deadlines.

Hardest push from Harry ▶ 11:27 Harry questions culture screen diversity impact

Harry directly challenges Anna's hiring screen based on conversational rapport, noting it can easily produce a homogenous team devoid of diverse perspectives.

Biggest teaching moment ▶ 8:30 Anna's systematic framework for rapid skill acquisition

Anna takes Harry through a thorough 5-step process for rapid learning and skill development, providing actionable tactical advice on how mechanical engineers master software hiring.

Harry holds his own ▶ 11:27 Harry identifies cultural diversity trap

Harry demonstrates keen organizational insight by pointing out how subjective rapport-based interview screens inadvertently stifle diversity.

the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
ChapterTopicHarry as informed peerGuest teachingGuest disagreementHarry pushing backWhy
Anna's Background & The Genesis of Instrumental 2311 Harry welcomes Anna and asks standard background questions about her transition from Apple to founding Instrumental. Anna explains the difference between building one prototype and mass-producing millions of units, setting up the problem Instrumental solves.
Key Takeaways & Cultural Values from Apple 2612 Anna lays out Apple core values and walks Harry through her structured 5-step methodology for learning new disciplines. Harry assumes the role of an eager learner, making light self-deprecating remarks about being a new VC.
Culture Screening and Diversity 4524 Harry challenges Anna's culture screening process, pointing out that 'likability' filters can create team homogeneity and reduce diversity. Anna reframes culture screening as a search for passion, then explains how hardware engineers approach software stack-ranking.
Unconventional Fundraising & Creating FOMO 5512 Anna explains how she engineered fundraising FOMO using a Y Combinator interview deadline, bypassing the usual chicken-and-egg term sheet dilemma. Harry validates her strategy using his own perspective as an active venture capitalist.
Managing Fundraising Risks & Pulled Term Sheets 3411 Anna cautions founders against closing off investor discussions early due to the risk of pulled term sheets. The segment finishes with a lighthearted quick-fire round on CEO challenges, Tolkien, and unloved industrial software.

Statements from this episode (12)

Prediction Not checkable as stated
Shedletsky: US will permanently fall behind without manufacturing automation
“If we don't automate, others will, and we won't be able to catch up, and I think it's important to keep that playing field as level as possible for as long as possible.”
Anna Shedletsky Apr 7, 2017 ▶ 4:12
Insight
Shedletsky: Ask experts to evaluate each other's advice to resolve conflicts
“I especially like to collect advice from several people and then ask those people to give me advice on the advice I've gotten from other people, which is particularly useful when you're not really sure how to judge differing perspectives.”
Anna Shedletsky Apr 7, 2017 ▶ 8:21
Insight
Shedletsky: Filter candidates faster with a 15-minute upfront culture screen
“We actually found out it was easier and faster to figure out if someone was a fit by doing a culture screen first. It took 15 minutes and essentially it's, would I want to have a conversation with this person again after this call, or am I happy this call is o…”
Anna Shedletsky Apr 7, 2017 ▶ 9:49
Insight
Shedletsky: Founders must run parallel Plan B strategies for critical milestones
“Anything that's company critical, like Hiring this first hire or fundraising or whatever. You need to have a plan B”
Anna Shedletsky Apr 7, 2017 ▶ 10:49
Disclosure
Shedletsky: Instrumental screens job candidates for passion over uniform backgrounds
“I think Instrumental has ended up being a team of very kind of angular people, but we're angular in different ways, and ultimately, our screen is for passion, and so we ask candidates to tell us about something they're passionate about, and that could be work-…”
Anna Shedletsky Apr 7, 2017 ▶ 11:49
Disclosure
Shedletsky: Instrumental generated investor FOMO using a Y Combinator interview date
“A few months after taking angel funding, we applied to Y Combinator, fully intending to try to get in because we thought it would be a great network for our company, and our application was selected for an in-person interview, and I picked a date three weeks o…”
Anna Shedletsky Apr 7, 2017 ▶ 17:16
Insight
Shedletsky: Asking VCs for advice yields free consulting and builds relationships
“I think what I have kind of stumbled into is you just go and ask advice. This is a great way to get like half an hour of free consulting about what you should be worried about in your business and what you should be doing about X, Y, Z, or the other.”
Anna Shedletsky Apr 7, 2017 ▶ 19:55
Opinion
Stebbings: VCs view founder referrals as the highest quality introductions
“There's also no better referral than a founder referral for VCs. They take that as kind of the highest form of solicitation.”
Harry Stebbings Apr 7, 2017 ▶ 20:11
Disclosure
Shedletsky: Instrumental had a high-watermark term sheet pulled during redlines
“We had our high watermark term sheet pulled on us for what we believe was no fault of our own. A week after we thought we'd finished the pre-signing due diligence and had Started trading red lines back and forth, and that pulled term sheet created difficulties…”
Anna Shedletsky Apr 7, 2017 ▶ 21:02
Insight
Shedletsky: Founders should secure at least two term sheets in parallel
“The best defense seems to be to have at least Two high watermark term sheets that you can work with in parallel, and to kind of not close down conversations just because you think you're done, and you just really want to be done with the fundraising process.”
Anna Shedletsky Apr 7, 2017 ▶ 21:33
Insight
Shedletsky: Machine learning's biggest manufacturing opportunity is full-line feedback control
“I think what's most exciting is what we're working on, which is creating closed loop feedback control around the manufacturing line, not just one specific process, as is kind of done today, but the entire line, the entire supply chain, and I think that's a sup…”
Anna Shedletsky Apr 7, 2017 ▶ 23:34
Insight
Shedletsky: Manufacturing lags in tech adoption due to focus on execution
“It's pretty antiquated, and the processes are pretty antiquated, and the people who work in this space are really always just focused on executing, and so they don't have a lot of time to think about how it could be better and what technologies could be better…”
Anna Shedletsky Apr 7, 2017 ▶ 24:00
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