Apr 22, 2016 · 25m · 20vc
20VC: Fundraising Is Also Business Development with Nicolas Dessaigne, Co-Founder & CEO @ Algolia
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In this episode of The 20 Minute VC, host Harry Stebbings interviews Nicolas Dessaigne, co-founder and CEO of Algolia, covering the company's journey through Y Combinator and Series A funding. Nicolas shares insights on prioritizing company culture, treating fundraising as a business development channel, and scaling a pure SaaS search platform.
How this conversation actually went
Every chapter scored 0–10 on four independent dynamics. Hover any point for the reasoning behind the score. Harry holds 35.2% of the talking time here. How this is scored →
Harry as informed peer 2.7 Guest teaching 2.6 Guest disagreement 0.3 Harry pushing back 1.1
speaking balance: gold is Harry, purple is the guest (3 minute bins)
Sharpest disagreement ▶ 4:06 Challenging complementary co-founder advice
Nicolas politely counters the standard advice about finding complementary founders, emphasizing alignment over differences.
Hardest push from Harry ▶ 13:53 Questioning second seed round implicationsHarry pushes Nicolas on whether second seed rounds signal a failure to find product-market fit.
Biggest teaching moment ▶ 16:15 Fundraising as a biz dev driverNicolas educates the host on how pitching to VCs served as customer acquisition by getting prospective portfolio companies to test Algolia's search.
Harry holds his own ▶ 11:52 Demonstrating deep cap table knowledgeHarry demonstrates strong industry context by citing multiple specific venture firms on Algolia's cap table.
the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
| Chapter | Topic | Harry as informed peer | Guest teaching | Guest disagreement | Harry pushing back | Why |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Guest Welcome and Algolia's Origin Story | 3 | 3 | 1 | 1 | Harry welcomes Nicolas and asks about Algolia's origin and co-founder selection. Nicolas offers a mild reframe on common startup wisdom, noting that core alignment matters more than complementary skill sets. | |
| Establishing Company Culture Before Product Development | 2 | 2 | 0 | 1 | Harry asks about establishing culture prior to product development. Nicolas explains the importance of team empowerment and agility, sharing an anecdote about a VP presenting as a founder. | |
| Scaling Culture, Core Values, and Onboarding Mentors | 2 | 2 | 0 | 1 | Harry probes how to scale culture during fast growth. Nicolas outlines the necessity of formalizing core values and using a buddy system for new hires. | |
| Algolia's Fundraising Journey from Seed to Series A | 4 | 2 | 0 | 1 | Harry shows familiarity with Algolia's cap table, listing investors like Index, Accel, and Point Nine. Nicolas details their funding progression from seed to Series A. | |
| Strategic Fundraising and Pitching as Business Development | 4 | 4 | 1 | 3 | Harry pushes on whether a second seed round implies a lack of product-market fit. Nicolas clarifies that for Algolia it was opportunistic, reframing fundraising as a powerful business development tool. | |
| Key Learnings and Acceleration at Y Combinator | 2 | 2 | 0 | 1 | Harry transitions to Y Combinator learnings and runs through a quick-fire round. Nicolas discusses sprint pacing at YC and personal growth as a leader. | |
| Algolia's Five-Year Vision for SaaS Search | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0 | Harry asks for Algolia's five-year vision. Nicolas explains the shift from on-premise search to SaaS and Algolia's focus on leading that market. |
Statements from this episode (13)
Algolia Was Inspired by Stack Overflow Questions About Lucene
“Algolia in itself, Came to being because of questions on Stack Overflow. If you don't know Stack Overflow, it's a very, very famous developers forum, and we saw many questions and answered questions about app developers wanting to embed Lucene, which is a sear…”
Algolia's Co-Founders Were Both Technical Rather Than Complementary
“I wouldn't say we were such complementary partners in our case, because we were both technical, like the way we wanted to build the team, the important things for a company, all of that things were like the core things we agreed upon.”
Co-Founder Alignment on Core Values Matters More Than Skill Complementarity
“Complementary is better, but make sure that you are aligned about like the core things you want to build.”
New Hires Will Not Learn Startup Culture Passively During Rapid Growth
“If you just assume that as they join the company, they will learn as they go, it's not going to work.”
Algolia Doubled Its Company Headcount in Six Months
“I sometimes would double the size of the company in six months.”
A Company Inherits Its Founders' Culture If They Prioritize It
“I mean, the culture in the end, it's embodied by the founders. I mean the company has the culture of the founders as long as the founders consider the culture important.”
Algolia Delayed Post-YC Series A to Take Small Investment From Jason Lemkin
“And so we finally decided not to raise any series A after weight combinator, but to take the risk to just raise a very small round to onboard new investors that we thought could provide a lot of value. That's when Jason Lemkin joined, joined us as an investor.”
Algolia Averaged 30% Month-Over-Month Growth Leading to Its Series A
“On average at that time we did 30% growth month over month, so it was what triggered that series A.”
Pitching Investors Doubles as Customer Acquisition for B2B Startups
“Many of the portfolio companies of investors, of potential investors, actually potential customers for us. It was kind of like, you know, fundraising for us was also business. It was also a way to reach out to new companies. And the best ever due diligence we …”
Moving Algolia's Entire Team to Silicon Valley Was Their Best Decision
“We did the, probably the best ever decision by moving every one of the company in in the Silicon Valley at that time.”
Founders Must Lean Into Authentic Strengths Rather Than Imitating Steve Jobs
“If you have someone who is very good at, very charismatic, but is not believable, It's not going to work either. You need to play your strengths, and my strengths are not like into the I'm not Steve Jobs or these kind of leaders, kind of leader could I be? And…”
SaaS Search Will Overtake On-Premise Search by 2021
“Search Is moving from on-premise to SaaS, and it's going to accelerate in the next five years. And so I believe that in five years SaaS will be actually much stronger than on-premise.”
Algolia Sacrifices Short-Term Revenue by Refusing On-Premise Deployments
“This focus led us to decide not to provide any on-premise solution today. While it could help us to get much more revenue at short term, we believe that because we want to be the Best player tomorrow for the SaaS market. We need to keep our focus on the produc…”