Aug 14, 2015 · 23m · news
FF 08: Pierre Valade, CEO @ Sunrise on Being Acquired By Microsoft for $100m and Building Beautiful Products
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In this episode of Founders Friday, host Harry Stebbings interviews Pierre Valade, co-founder and CEO of Sunrise, exploring the calendar app's design-led development, fundraising challenges, and ultimate $100 million acquisition by Microsoft.
How this conversation actually went
Every chapter scored 0–10 on four independent dynamics. Hover any point for the reasoning behind the score. Harry holds 23.3% of the talking time here. How this is scored →
Harry as informed peer 2.2 Guest teaching 3.2 Guest disagreement 1.7 Harry pushing back 1.7
speaking balance: gold is Harry, purple is the guest (3 minute bins)
Sharpest disagreement ▶ 10:27 Rejecting generalized founder advice
Pierre explicitly refrains from accepting Harry's attempt to turn Sunrise's internal testing process into a universal rule for all founders.
Hardest push from Harry ▶ 17:16 Probing board disagreement on acquisitionHarry directly asks Pierre whether investors resisted the acquisition offer or held out for a higher price.
Biggest teaching moment ▶ 15:53 Distinguishing product craft from business buildingPierre educates Harry on the separation between making an excellent app and constructing a commercial business model.
Harry holds his own ▶ 9:27 Synthesizing iterative prototyping methodologyHarry concisely summarizes and validates Pierre's technical approach to rapid prototyping and internal feedback loops.
the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
| Chapter | Topic | Harry as informed peer | Guest teaching | Guest disagreement | Harry pushing back | Why |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Pierre Valade on Background and Launching Sunrise | 1 | 2 | 1 | 1 | Harry asks basic introductory questions about Pierre's background and how Sunrise was founded. Pierre explains his personal motivation around having a bad memory and meeting his co-founder at Foursquare. | |
| Design Philosophy and Standout Features of Sunrise | 2 | 3 | 1 | 1 | Harry prompts Pierre on specific feature differentiators. Pierre highlights design quality and integrations, explaining that user needs evolve beyond basic requests into unthought-of capabilities. | |
| Apple Watch Development and Iterative Prototyping | 3 | 4 | 2 | 2 | Harry synthesizes Pierre's product testing framework and attempts to extract a general advice rule for founders. Pierre politely rejects generalizing, emphasizing their own naive focus on craft. | |
| Fundraising Experience and Handling Rejection | 2 | 4 | 3 | 2 | Pierre describes his grueling fundraising experience, admitting he was almost arrogant in refusing to present pitch slides and forcing investors to evaluate the live product instead. | |
| The $100 Million Microsoft Acquisition | 3 | 4 | 2 | 3 | Harry presses on whether investors clashed over the $100M acquisition price. Pierre candidly articulates the fundamental distinction between building a great product and building a monetization engine. | |
| Life inside Microsoft and Organizational Changes | 2 | 2 | 1 | 1 | Harry moves through rapid-fire questions covering books, life changes post-acquisition, and influences. Pierre shares insights on stress reduction after gaining a boss inside Microsoft. |
Statements from this episode (10)
Valade: Traditional calendar software provides minimal value to users
“This thing is just not great. I mean, you can just put stuff in your calendar, but it doesn't give you that much value out of it.”
Sunrise founders left Foursquare and U.S. due to visa restrictions
“We quit Foursquare end of 2012, and we had to go back to Europe because we didn't have any visa at that time to stay in the U.S. Because we were just, we quit our job, so we had to go back in Europe in the winter of 2012, and then we launched Sunrise February …”
Valade: Product teams must invent features users don't request
“We can think about building and stuff that, that people Don't even expect in their calendar. So on that type of things, we don't really expect them to come back to us and say, you know, I wish I could do X, Y, and Z, because no one even thinks that's even poss…”
Valade: Smartwatches are the most critical platform for calendar apps
“Watch is probably the device that, you know, you associate the most with time, right? The watch is like device where you will look and see what time is it. And so we thought about this as like, oh, this is really interesting because it's probably the device th…”
Valade: Mobile and smartwatch features must be evaluated in real-life contexts
“Especially when you're building mobile apps or watch apps, you can't look at them on the TV in the room and decide if it makes sense or not. You have to, you live with the feature for a few days before you realize that, you know, when I'm going out of the subw…”
Valade raised Sunrise's seed round with a live product, no deck
“So the funny, so I didn't do any business plan for that. I just say, we have a product out there. Try the product. It speaks for itself. So I was really almost kind of like arrogant about the fact that I didn't want to do slides. I was like, you know, we just …”
Valade: Sunrise sold to Microsoft because the team couldn't monetize it
“I think we didn't know exactly how we could take it from a great product to a great business. I think we've done a good job building a great product. We didn't really know how we could make money. Or turn it into, and turn this into a successful business. And …”
Valade: Microsoft Paid the Acquisition Price Sunrise Asked For
“You just, you know, for us, you know, we knew that we had a price, and we got the price we wanted, and the vision were aligned, and we liked the people we met there, so, you know, we said, okay, you know, we should do it.”
Valade: Some Sunrise investors wanted to reject Microsoft's $100M offer
“Yeah, so this, so some of them thought that we should go for more, but I also think investors who really respect entrepreneurs, And, ah, and I think those investor that we worked with respect the entrepreneur decision at the end of the day.”