secondary market

also referred to as: secondary markets

18 statements across 15 episodes · 9 bullish · 7 bearish · 14 people on the record · first statement Mar 19, 2015 by Sharon Wienbar · across every show →

Everything said about secondary market, oldest first

Mar 19, 2015
Assertion Supported
Wienbar: Startup valuations equalize across regions as companies scale
“But as the companies scale, the companies get valued on their potential market size and on their, you know, current traction and success. So I think it all become, you know, it all kind of becomes equalized as the company scales, but the, those early seed roun…”
Sharon Wienbar Mar 19, 2015 ▶ 17:01 20 VC 021: Gender Equality, Startup Valuations and 'Friend Raising before Fund Raising with Sharon Wienbar
Mar 11, 2021 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Sandell: Secondary markets will become vital for managing early-stage funds
“Well, I do think that the secondary markets Are really at an inflection point, and there's more and more capital flowing into the secondary markets. You know, we've seen it, of course, first for entrepreneurs. There's been a pretty robust secondary market avai…”
Scott Sandell Mar 11, 2021 ▶ 15:26 20VC: NEA's Scott Sandell on SPACS and Why Liquidity is One of the Challenges of our Time, Why We Are At An Inflection Point For Secondaries & Why There Is Nothing To Suggest The Boom Will Not Continue
Apr 25, 2023 negative
Assertion Partly supported
Secondary VC fund positions are commonly selling at 40-50% discounts
“So one LP will purchase another LP's position and the range of discount that we're seeing actually is anywhere from. But what's more common Is actually 40% or 50% from last round mark. And so you're talking about a pretty significant discount to last round val…”
Avlok Kohli Apr 25, 2023 ▶ 24:51 AngelList CEO Avlok Kohli: The Funding Market Today; Last-Mile Delivery; Competing w/ Carta | E1005 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 20, 2023 bullish
Opinion
Current VC Market Is a Historic Secondary Market Opportunity
“Today is likely one of the best ever opportunities for activity in the secondary markets”
Harry Stebbings Oct 20, 2023 ▶ 21:27 20VC: NEW FORMAT: Harry Stebbings on Why Seed Pricing is as High as Ever, Why Series A is the Best Place to Invest Today, Why Growth Founders Need to Reshape Expectations, Why M&A Windows Remain Shut and When Will IPO Windows Crack Open
Nov 22, 2023 positive
Disclosure
Seibert exited his $10k Alchemy investment at a 200x return
“A college friend of mine was prototyping what was gonna be a new teenage social network, and I invested 10 K. I was like, the guy's smart. Let's see what happens. He eventually pivoted that into down to lunch, which did well for a bit and then failed, unfortun…”
Jeff Seibert Nov 22, 2023 ▶ 47:25 Jeff Seibert: Why OpenAI Will Become an Infrastructure Play | E1085 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Nov 22, 2023 bearish
Disclosure
Seibert: Secondary market data shows startups trading down 80%
“I do get data from the secondary markets, and so I can see with some of them like where they're trading versus where their last preferred round was, and it's a bloodbath. It's like down 80% for many of them.”
Jeff Seibert Nov 22, 2023 ▶ 43:22 Jeff Seibert: Why OpenAI Will Become an Infrastructure Play | E1085 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Nov 22, 2023 bullish
Disclosure
Seibert finds secondary pre-IPO share sales more lucrative than post-IPO exits
“I've actually had more success selling on the secondary market pre IPO than I have had actually waiting the whole time.”
Jeff Seibert Nov 22, 2023 ▶ 44:36 Jeff Seibert: Why OpenAI Will Become an Infrastructure Play | E1085 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jan 29, 2024 negative
Disclosure
Akkina: MITIMCo almost never sells fund stakes on secondary markets
“We'll certainly think about it. We almost never do it because we're not willing to do it at a low price, right? I mean, the reason these secondary funds exist is obviously to get high IRRs themselves, right? And so, generally speaking you know, if we're sellin…”
Ryan Akkina Jan 29, 2024 ▶ 28:53 Ryan Akkina: How MIT Builds Their Venture Fund Portfolio & How MIT Approach Direct Investing | E1109 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 19, 2024 negative
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Eisenberg: Secondary market buyers claiming interest are mostly fishing for startup data
“Over the last three or four weeks, we've decided to do a little experiment. We reach out to them now. We used to ignore them. But now it's interesting because, like, you discover there are actual buyers there. There aren't, ok? There are not actual buyers ther…”
Michael Eisenberg Jun 19, 2024 ▶ 40:42 Michael Eisenberg: How China Could Overtake the US in the AI Race | E1167 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 9, 2024 neutral
Opinion
Wang: 99% of private companies cannot stay private via secondaries indefinitely
“I think there may be a certain set of companies out there that can pull off what you're talking about before. 99% of the companies out there. I think that's really difficult.”
Jeff Wang Oct 9, 2024 ▶ 25:45 Jeff Wang: Sequoia Capital's $9BN Global Equities Fund on The Future for NVIDIA, Google & Meta|E1212 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 14, 2024 negative
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Frankel: Secondary share liquidity is almost impossible for smaller private startups
“Like in your high flyers, so in your really well-known companies, there's a real secondary market. Try to get secondary in your smaller private company. It's almost impossible. So I found secondary to be very, very difficult. Where we've done secondary, they'v…”
David Frankel Oct 14, 2024 ▶ 35:16 David Frankel, MP @Founder Collective: Investing Lessons from Seeding Coupang, Pillpack & Suno|E1214 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Nov 11, 2024 negative
Opinion
Grimm: SPV brokers exploit unsophisticated investors with high fees and bad numbers
“What is fundamentally happening is you get a representation of bad numbers. To kind of like relatively unsophisticated investors on the other end who are paying usually pretty steep premiums to the kind of what we would describe as the fair market price with u…”
Matt Grimm Nov 11, 2024 ▶ 57:28 Matt Grimm, Co-Founder @Anduril: How a Trump Administration Changes the Defence Industry | E1224 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Mar 26, 2025 positive
Insight
Green: Emerging VC managers must utilize secondary markets
“What I believe like emerging managers and people starting venture funds need to do is take advantage of the secondary wind of the secondary markets.”
Mitchell Green Mar 26, 2025 ▶ 28:00 Mitchell Green, Founder @ Lead Edge Capital: Why Traditional VC is Broken · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Apr 28, 2025 positive
Assertion Partly supported
Hinrikus: SpaceX Has Faced Zero Liquidity Issues as a Private Company
“You know, the best example of all is maybe SpaceX today. It's a private company has had zero liquidity issues. So there is a secondary market always open.”
Taavet Hinrikus Apr 28, 2025 ▶ 16:00 Plural Partner, Taavet Hinrikus: Why Founders Will Realise Multi-Stage Funds Damage Seed Rounds · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Dec 15, 2025 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
a16z historically refuses to sell secondary shares in late-stage portfolio companies
“We could, but we historically have not. And so, you know, for the most part, for the companies that have decided to stay private, we've been really excited to stay in them, keep backing them. And that's probably the strategy that we'll, we'll continue to have.”
David George Dec 15, 2025 ▶ 7:00 a16z's David George on the Most Controversial Bet at a16z & Do Margins and Revenue Matter in AI? · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jul 27, 2026 negative
Opinion
Bad actors harm secondary markets by marketing fake startup access
“I think the problem is, you know, it's secondary markets, SPVs, they've just become, Too annoying and aggravating in the market to founders. And someone else is basically like, I don't want you marketing my stock. My, and I want to be the one who's figuring ou…”
Matt Murphy Jul 27, 2026 ▶ 17:42 Will Open-Source Threaten Anthropic's Business & Do Margins Matter in a World of AI | Matt Murphy
Aug 7, 2026 positive
Opinion
Stebbings: Seed managers will be defined by secondary market navigation
“I think this generation of seed managers will be defined by their ability to access and navigate secondary markets effectively”
Harry Stebbings Aug 7, 2026 ▶ 49:21 The AI Boom Will Create Enormous Roadkill: Who Wins & Loses? | David Frankel
Aug 7, 2026 bullish
Insight
Frankel: Seed VCs Should Sell 20% of Winners Early to Generate DPI
“Even in your top names, sometimes taking 20% off the table, if you can return 25% of the fund, particularly if it's a newish fund, so if it's a, you know, if it's a twenty-twenty-four fund and you can give back 25%, like, why wouldn't you do that? And you're s…”
David Frankel Aug 7, 2026 ▶ 51:23 The AI Boom Will Create Enormous Roadkill: Who Wins & Loses? | David Frankel
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