Poolside

24 statements across 6 episodes · 12 bullish · 0 bearish · 4 people on the record · first statement Oct 7, 2024 by Eiso Kant · said 80 times in 18 episodes since 2024 · across every show →

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Oct 7, 2024 neutral
Disclosure
Kant: Poolside's $500M round is merely an entry ticket to AGI race
“You do not want to look back on that moment and not have given it everything you've got, because it's a race, and the latest five hundred million dollar round translates to us being able to be an entrant into the race.”
Eiso Kant Oct 7, 2024 ▶ 0:12 Eiso Kant, CTO @Poolside: Raising $600M To Compete in the Race for AGI | E1211 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 7, 2024 bullish
Prediction Held up
Kant: Poolside, OpenAI, and Anthropic will rival Big Tech in AI
“What I would like to see and what I think is going to happen is that it's not just Google, Amazon, and Microsoft. It's going to be, you know, an open eye, an anthropic, a poolside, and a set of companies who are able to get that massive escape velocity needed …”
Eiso Kant Oct 7, 2024 ▶ 53:29 Eiso Kant, CTO @Poolside: Raising $600M To Compete in the Race for AGI | E1211 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 7, 2024 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Kant: $100B is merely the starting price to become an AI hyperscaler
“If you want to become a hyperscaler that is able to put data centers all over the world with GPUs in it that is, that are going to allow you to serve these models to everyone, an infrastructure player, that's probably it. And that's probably just a starting po…”
Eiso Kant Oct 7, 2024 ▶ 31:57 Eiso Kant, CTO @Poolside: Raising $600M To Compete in the Race for AGI | E1211 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 7, 2024
Disclosure
Kant: Poolside brought 10,000 GPUs online in summer 2024
“The 10,000 GPUs that we've now brought online this summer, you know, that came from this capital, allow us to make incredible advancements in model capabilities”
Eiso Kant Oct 7, 2024 ▶ 28:20 Eiso Kant, CTO @Poolside: Raising $600M To Compete in the Race for AGI | E1211 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 7, 2024 neutral
Insight
Kant: New Nvidia Blackwell GPUs do not force immediate training cluster upgrades
“The Blackwell generation for us from a training perspective doesn't unlock anything new. It just means that we have to, we can do more with a certain set of chips. My H 200 become less valuable in the world, but it does not necessarily mean I have to go upgrad…”
Eiso Kant Oct 7, 2024 ▶ 40:11 Eiso Kant, CTO @Poolside: Raising $600M To Compete in the Race for AGI | E1211 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 7, 2024 positive
Insight
Kant: Unlike normal startups, building AGI is a direct competitive race
“Most startups are not racist. Most startups are against your, yourself. But AGI is a race, and so our view always has been, is that the team that we build is a team that is deeply passionate to be in that race”
Eiso Kant Oct 7, 2024 ▶ 1:00:21 Eiso Kant, CTO @Poolside: Raising $600M To Compete in the Race for AGI | E1211 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 7, 2024 bullish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Kant: Poolside runs world's largest code AI training environment with 130,000 codebases
“We put it in an environment, say it's an environment with a 130,000 real world code bases, several orders of magnitude, the largest environment in the world.”
Eiso Kant Oct 7, 2024 ▶ 8:07 Eiso Kant, CTO @Poolside: Raising $600M To Compete in the Race for AGI | E1211 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 7, 2024 positive
Disclosure
NVIDIA participated in Poolside's funding round without taking an outsized stake
“There is one corporate that became part of our round, and that was very deliberate, was NVIDIA. Not in an outsized stake manner at all. And it's because we collaborate really closely with them On, you know, the next generation of their chips, on the software a…”
Eiso Kant Oct 7, 2024 ▶ 44:28 Eiso Kant, CTO @Poolside: Raising $600M To Compete in the Race for AGI | E1211 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 7, 2024 neutral
Assertion Supported
Kant: Neither OpenAI nor Poolside is allowed to train on private code
“But private code, no one's allowed to train on. Not us, not OpenAI. So all of us have access to the same public data.”
Eiso Kant Oct 7, 2024 ▶ 27:10 Eiso Kant, CTO @Poolside: Raising $600M To Compete in the Race for AGI | E1211 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 7, 2024 bullish
Insight
Kant: Poolside is generating intermediate developer reasoning data to unlock software AI
“The missing data set in the world to go from where models are today to being as capable as humans at building software is the data set that represents being given the task, all of your intermediate reasoning and thinking, the steps that you do, the code that y…”
Eiso Kant Oct 7, 2024 ▶ 4:17 Eiso Kant, CTO @Poolside: Raising $600M To Compete in the Race for AGI | E1211 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 7, 2024 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Kant: Third parties will build more value on Poolside than Poolside alone
“But I still actually look at this thinking that there will be more value built on top of us in the future than what we can possibly unlock only ourselves.”
Eiso Kant Oct 7, 2024 ▶ 1:04:46 Eiso Kant, CTO @Poolside: Raising $600M To Compete in the Race for AGI | E1211 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 7, 2024 neutral
Insight
Kant: Model training is CapEx, while inference is OpEx
“The creation of models is CapEx. The operating of them, the inference to running of them is OPEX. But the OPEX to run them requires extremely large scale physical footprint in the world.”
Eiso Kant Oct 7, 2024 ▶ 33:32 Eiso Kant, CTO @Poolside: Raising $600M To Compete in the Race for AGI | E1211 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 7, 2024 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Kant: Software development will be first domain where AI closes human gap
“Our view of Poolside is that the first majorly economically viable capability that is going to close the gap between human intelligence and machine intelligence is software development.”
Eiso Kant Oct 7, 2024 ▶ 15:07 Eiso Kant, CTO @Poolside: Raising $600M To Compete in the Race for AGI | E1211 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 7, 2024 neutral
Assertion Supported
Kant: Internet has 3T usable code tokens vs 15T English text tokens
“Usable code for training is what we refer to as about three trillion tokens. And if you look at kind of usable language in English on the internet for training, we're talking about anywhere between 10 and 15 trillion tokens. There's a massive amount of code th…”
Eiso Kant Oct 7, 2024 ▶ 3:36 Eiso Kant, CTO @Poolside: Raising $600M To Compete in the Race for AGI | E1211 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 7, 2024 neutral
Insight
Kant: AI value will accumulate across the stack, not just model layer
“Because I agree with you that the value is not going to only accumulate at the model layer. It's going to accumulate all the way to the end user.”
Eiso Kant Oct 7, 2024 ▶ 1:04:27 Eiso Kant, CTO @Poolside: Raising $600M To Compete in the Race for AGI | E1211 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 7, 2024 neutral
Disclosure
Kant: Poolside deliberately excluded Google, Microsoft, and Amazon from $500M round
“If look at our capital raise, our last five hundred million dollar round, you'll see that there's none of the big hyperscalers, Google, Microsoft, you know, Amazon were part of the round.”
Eiso Kant Oct 7, 2024 ▶ 43:43 Eiso Kant, CTO @Poolside: Raising $600M To Compete in the Race for AGI | E1211 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 7, 2024 positive
Opinion
Kant: Elite tech talent willing to make extreme sacrifices exists worldwide
“I have found no shortage of people in Europe that, or in America, there's a stereotype about Europe But the fact of the matter is that people who want to join races and do truly their life's work, they're built differently, and you can find them all over the w…”
Eiso Kant Oct 7, 2024 ▶ 1:00:59 Eiso Kant, CTO @Poolside: Raising $600M To Compete in the Race for AGI | E1211 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 7, 2024 neutral
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Kant: Full AGI is far off, but specific high-value capabilities will arrive first
“At some point we are going to be in a world where across all sets of capabilities that we have as human beings, Machine intelligence is going to be as capable and if not more capable than us and surpass us. Now, our point of view is, is that that world is stil…”
Eiso Kant Oct 7, 2024 ▶ 1:42 Eiso Kant, CTO @Poolside: Raising $600M To Compete in the Race for AGI | E1211 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jul 24, 2025 positive
Disclosure
Stebbings: Poolside investment marked up to $5B in two years
“I'm in poolside where I've got a 250 K check. In two years, it was marked to five billion dollars.”
Harry Stebbings Jul 24, 2025 ▶ 51:21 How Do All Providers Deal with Anthropic Dependency Risk & Figma IPO Breakdown: Where Does it Price? · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 23, 2025 positive
Disclosure
Stebbings: Early investment in Poolside founder's previous startup returned 50x
“I was actually one of the first investors. I don't know if you guys knew this. I invested in ISO, the founder of Poolside's business. Which pivoted into poolside. And so I got rolled in very luckily into like the first round, which is great. I'm very grateful …”
Harry Stebbings Oct 23, 2025 ▶ 51:16 Why VC Today is Worse than 2021 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Aug 9, 2026 positive
Opinion
Atallah: Poolside builds small, highly effective, underrated coding models
“I mean, first, like, poolside's models are great. I that's probably, like, my fire round answer. Good, like, new American lab building interesting coding models that are very, that are small but highly effective, and they're, like, building a lot of useful too…”
Alex Atallah Aug 9, 2026 ▶ 1:01:51 OpenRouter CEO: Why Chinese Open Models Are Beating the US | Why Enterprises Fear OpenAI & Anthropic
Aug 27, 2026 positive
Disclosure
Stebbings: 20VC to see roughly 15x return on seed stake in Poolside
“You know, it'll be like a 15 X for us as a seed ambassador. It's pretty great.”
Harry Stebbings Aug 27, 2026 ▶ 6:08 Anthropic's $30T Assumption & OpenAI Confirms IPO | Why Customer Service & Robotics are Overinflated
Aug 27, 2026 neutral
Assertion Supported
Stebbings: Nvidia licenses Poolside factory for $6B, invests $1B at $12B
“NVIDIA is paying six billion dollars to license Poolside's model factory and investing a billion dollars more at a twelve billion dollar pre-money valuation, moving a 109 engineers over to NemoTron to help build it.”
Harry Stebbings Aug 27, 2026 ▶ 1:04 Anthropic's $30T Assumption & OpenAI Confirms IPO | Why Customer Service & Robotics are Overinflated
Sep 10, 2026 neutral
Assertion Not yet assessed · timeframe Sep 2027
O'Driscoll alleges Poolside effectively cashed out via Nvidia product license
“A few weeks ago, Poolside effectively didn't, they would deny that they sold, but they sold a license for their product to NVIDIA, which was an open weight enterprise US focused model, and they, you know, the company still exists, but they cashed out quite a l…”
Rory O'Driscoll Sep 10, 2026 ▶ 1:18:13 Jensen Huang Declares AGI Has Arrived | Tesla Launches Cybercabs | Index Pulls Out of Town
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