network effects

also referred to as: network effect

20 statements across 18 episodes · 8 bullish · 2 bearish · 17 people on the record · first statement Jul 13, 2015 by Jonathan Libov · across every show →

Everything said about network effects, oldest first

Jul 13, 2015 positive
Insight
Network Effects Are the Primary Defensible Quality of Internet Businesses
“I think they had a real belief that networks would be the defensible quality of the internet, or the defensible thing about building a business on the internet. Whereas, let's say, In prior businesses like, ah, Microsoft Office or Windows or any other software…”
Jonathan Libov Jul 13, 2015 ▶ 5:27 20 VC 053: Inside Union Square Ventures with Jonathan Libov @ Union Square Ventures
Dec 13, 2017 positive
Assertion Supported
Currier: Network effects drove 60% of tech value created since 1994
“We did a large study of companies that were, have been formed since 1994, 337 companies worth over a billion. And if you look at the market caps, the combined market caps of all these companies and identify, you know, which of them had network effects at their…”
James Currier Dec 13, 2017 ▶ 16:06 20VC: How To Balance Between Vision and Stubbornness, Why Speed Is The Most Important Startup Superpower & The Main Role of A Startup Founder Today with James Currier, Managing Director @ NFX
Feb 19, 2018
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Liew: Valuation Matters Less for Companies With Network Effects
“There are some companies that have unlimited upside, things that have network effects, and in those cases, valuation doesn't matter as much.”
Jeremy Liew Feb 19, 2018 ▶ 11:28 20VC: Lightspeed's Jeremy Liew on Being The First Investor in Snapchat, Why The Pessimism Around Consumer Is Wrong & Why Silicon Valley Is An Isolated Bubble and What Can Be Done To Change This
Mar 5, 2018
Insight
Strong user retention, not fast growth, proves network effects
“Because engagement is a sign of network effect, not growth. This is where the confusion comes. Most people think every fast growing has a network effect. It doesn't. The retention is a strong sign of network effect.”
Anu Hariharan Mar 5, 2018 ▶ 11:45 20VC: Why, How and When To Think About Growth Teams, The Right Way To Think About Network Effects & Scaling from Phase 1 To Phase 2 of Startup Life with Anu Hariharan, Partner @ YC Continuity Fund
Mar 5, 2018 positive
Assertion Supported
Amazon scaled phenomenally as a first-party business without network effects
“Amazon is the prime example of a large company that started off as a first party business, which had no network effects, and they've done phenomenally well as they've scaled it.”
Anu Hariharan Mar 5, 2018 ▶ 15:43 20VC: Why, How and When To Think About Growth Teams, The Right Way To Think About Network Effects & Scaling from Phase 1 To Phase 2 of Startup Life with Anu Hariharan, Partner @ YC Continuity Fund
Mar 5, 2018
Insight
A true network effect requires incremental value for existing users
“I think the common confusion arises from the fact that people get confused with systems, nodes, technology, platforms, you know, and I think they forget that it is about measuring the incremental value to the existing user. As more users join it, and if that d…”
Anu Hariharan Mar 5, 2018 ▶ 7:32 20VC: Why, How and When To Think About Growth Teams, The Right Way To Think About Network Effects & Scaling from Phase 1 To Phase 2 of Startup Life with Anu Hariharan, Partner @ YC Continuity Fund
Aug 6, 2018 negative
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Brown: Physical product brands cannot achieve software-style network effects
“If you are building your own product, It's very, very hard to argue that you're going to have the same kind of network effect that a platform business might have because your growth is going to be contingent on how quickly you can build inventory and how quick…”
Nick Brown Aug 6, 2018 ▶ 12:13 20VC: 3 Core Considerations When Investing In Physical Product Co's, Are We In A Direct-To-Consumer Bubble & Why Many Sub $100m Funds Are Moving Earlier and Earlier with Nick Brown, Managing Partner @ Imaginary
Sep 24, 2018 positive
Insight
Investors should pay premium valuations for startups demonstrating clear network effects
“Kind of the way I think about it is that when there is a company that has the potential for a clear network effect and something's really working so much so that you feel like that company can really get away from you in terms of growth, then paying what does …”
Sarah Tavel Sep 24, 2018 ▶ 21:43 20VC: Benchmark's Sarah Tavel on Why Investing Success Lies In Small Markets Adjacent To Very Large Ones, Why You Have To Be Judicious On When To Pay Up vs Be More Price Sensitive & Why Crypto Investing Is Like The Early Days of AdTech Investing
Apr 12, 2019 positive
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Henry Ward: Multi-product strategy accelerates network effect convergence
“If you believe in the network effects of our business, it's a much more powerful paradigm to execute on multiple fronts of this network because the network converges faster.”
Henry Ward Apr 12, 2019 ▶ 19:24 20VC: Carta Founder Henry Ward on Why The Best Companies Are Not Product Led But Distribution Led, 3 Requirements Needed For A New Market/Investment To Be Exciting and Why Small Markets Are So Attractive
Jun 17, 2019 positive
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Hsu: Network effects are the primary source of medium-term defensibility
“You know, when we think about defensibility right now, the most obvious pattern that we've seen in the last 15 years now is really the concept of a network effect, right? The concept of a network effect seems to really be able to put in a chunk of defensibilit…”
Jonathan Hsu Jun 17, 2019 ▶ 23:31 20VC: Why Historical Loss Ratios Are Simply Too High, Why Data Is The #1 Most Important Piece When Evaluating Effective Reserve Allocation & Why Nothing Is Truly Defensible Today with Jonathan Hsu, Co-Founder and General Partner @ Tribe Capital
Jun 24, 2019 positive
Disclosure
Gurley: I Am Emotionally Vulnerable to Network Effects and UGC Pitches
“It's a better question for the other four, but I suspect it has something to do with Network effects, or user-generated content, or those types of concepts are, like, emotionally appealing to me. So if anyone walks in and uses those two phrases, I might have a…”
Bill Gurley Jun 24, 2019 ▶ 21:25 20VC: Benchmark's Bill Gurley on 5 Traits Benchmark Look For When Adding To The Partnership, Why The Abundance of Capital Is Today's Biggest Challenge in VC & The Right Way To Think About Market Size When Assessing Opportunities
Jul 13, 2020
Insight
Palihapitiya: Strong network effects protect products despite poor execution and strategy
“At AIM, it was a similar kind of idea where you had these tens of millions of users, and because of those users, we were able to keep the product afloat even during times when the product quality was quite poor, The product strategy wasn't very crisp. Our exec…”
Chamath Palihapitiya Jul 13, 2020 ▶ 6:23 20VC: Chamath Palihapitiya on Why IPOs and Direct Listings Are Broken, Turning Social Capital Into A Combination of Berkshire Hathaway, Koch Industries and The Red Cross, Why Forecasts Are Worthless, What Creates True Defensibility & Why You Have To Be Pr
Sep 11, 2020 neutral
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Alex Tew: Pure organic customer acquisition is rare without network effects
“You know, it's very rare that a business will be hundred percent organic. I can only think of a few examples, particularly the businesses that have network effects that are truly organic in nature”
Alex Tew Sep 11, 2020 ▶ 14:08 20VC: Calm Founder Alex Tew on What It Takes To Build Viral Products Today, The Current State of Customer Acquisition Costs, What Makes The Best Brands
Jul 22, 2022 neutral
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Samani: Almost all product network effects are sublinear
“Almost all network effects are sublinear.”
Kyle Samani Jul 22, 2022 ▶ 34:11 Kyle Samani: Why Bitcoin is Not a Hedge Against Inflation | 20VC #909 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jan 16, 2023 positive
Disclosure
Jordan: Investing strategy centers almost exclusively on network effects
“And largely as an investor, I'm a kind of a one trick pony. Everything I would like to talk about as an operator and an investor typically involves a network effect.”
Jeff Jordan Jan 16, 2023 ▶ 2:06 a16z GP Jeff Jordan: The Ultimate Guide to Two-Sided Marketplaces | 20VC #966 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Nov 27, 2023
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Rabois: Network effects offset the inevitable regression of employee quality at scale
“I think you definitely do past X thousand employees see some regression to the mean, and the art is constructing some accumulating advantages, let's say a network effect before that happens, because the momentum of a network effect can offset some of the slipp…”
Keith Rabois Nov 27, 2023 ▶ 28:00 Keith Rabois & Mike Shebat: Creating an Olympian Mindset to Work Ethic| E1087 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
May 6, 2024
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Tavel: B2B software relies on economies of scale, not network effects
“B to B software has very rarely had network effects, right? What it has had instead is more economies of scale.”
Sarah Tavel May 6, 2024 ▶ 31:11 Sarah Tavel: Will Foundation Models Be Commoditised? | E1149 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Nov 13, 2024 neutral
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Villig: Second movers in ride-hailing cannot win without unique differentiation
“So the first Player has a huge advantage. They have bigger density. They have therefore better pickup times in terms of the cars. They can therefore offer you a much better customer value proposition. So if you're coming in as a second player, it's generally a…”
Markus Villig Nov 13, 2024 ▶ 35:02 Markus Villig, Founder @Bolt: The Most Insane Story in Startups & The Future of Self-Driving| E1225 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Feb 20, 2025 neutral
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Hiremath: Zero software cost businesses must rely on network effects
“The businesses that succeed in a world where software costs approach zero will be built on network effects.”
Adarsh Hiremath Feb 20, 2025 ▶ 30:49 Adarsh Hiremath @ Mercor: The Fastest Growing Startup in Silicon Valley | E1261 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 1, 2026 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Foody: Software companies lacking network effects will struggle due to AI
“The companies that don't have network effects are going to struggle very significantly because then there's not really a defensible moat in the pure software associated with the products that they build.”
Brendan Foody Jun 1, 2026 ▶ 38:23 Mercor CEO: Why Application Layer Companies Have No Moat & The Cost of Hiring AI Researchers · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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