Jonathan Ross

43 statements across 4 episodes · 20 bullish · 3 bearish · 2 people on the record · first statement Jan 29, 2025 by Jonathan Ross · said 23 times in 10 episodes since 2025 · across every show →

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Jan 29, 2025 neutral
Insight
Jonathan Ross: AI models are engines, products are cars
“Model is it's a piece of machinery. It's an engine, but what is the car? What is the experience?”
Jonathan Ross Jan 29, 2025 ▶ 34:43 Jonathan Ross: DeepSeek Special - How Should OpenAI and the US Government Respond | E1253 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jan 29, 2025
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Ross: Google spent 10x to 20x more on AI inference than training
“At Google, we always ended up spending 10 to 20 times as much on the inference as training back when I was there.”
Jonathan Ross Jan 29, 2025 ▶ 20:23 Jonathan Ross: DeepSeek Special - How Should OpenAI and the US Government Respond | E1253 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jan 29, 2025 bullish
Opinion
Ross: Specialized AI inference chip startups benefit NVIDIA's stock
“I don't know that Nvidia will ever see it this way, but I do think that those of us focusing on inference and building stuff specifically for that are probably the best thing that's ever happened for Nvidia stock because we'll take on the low margin, high volu…”
Jonathan Ross Jan 29, 2025 ▶ 41:56 Jonathan Ross: DeepSeek Special - How Should OpenAI and the US Government Respond | E1253 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jan 29, 2025 positive
Disclosure
Ross: Cheaper AI models trigger net spikes in Groq developer count
“And so what's really happening is every time one of these models gets cheaper, we see our developer count just skyrocket. It just like goes up and then it comes back down a little bit, but the slope is higher than when it started.”
Jonathan Ross Jan 29, 2025 ▶ 38:28 Jonathan Ross: DeepSeek Special - How Should OpenAI and the US Government Respond | E1253 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jan 29, 2025 bullish
Prediction Open · timeframe Jan 2030
Ross: AI inference will account for 95% of total compute demand
“I think, 95%.”
Jonathan Ross Jan 29, 2025 ▶ 20:58 Jonathan Ross: DeepSeek Special - How Should OpenAI and the US Government Respond | E1253 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jan 29, 2025 positive
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Ross: As AI software creation becomes trivial, craftsmanship will command value
“And so what you're going to see now is because it's so easy to come up with something that just kind of works. It's a little embarrassing, but it kind of works. People are really going to value well-crafted, high quality, products.”
Jonathan Ross Jan 29, 2025 ▶ 59:17 Jonathan Ross: DeepSeek Special - How Should OpenAI and the US Government Respond | E1253 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jan 29, 2025
Insight
Ross proposes automated matching subsidies to deter foreign AI and tech intervention
“There needs to be some sort of Automated response of like, if you do this, we will respond. If you subsidize this industry, we will automatically subsidize the equivalent industry. Just automatic. So don't do it because there's no benefit to you.”
Jonathan Ross Jan 29, 2025 ▶ 22:24 Jonathan Ross: DeepSeek Special - How Should OpenAI and the US Government Respond | E1253 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jan 29, 2025
Opinion
Ross: $500B AI infrastructure plan is not enough spending
“Actually, I don't think it's enough spending.”
Jonathan Ross Jan 29, 2025 ▶ 19:22 Jonathan Ross: DeepSeek Special - How Should OpenAI and the US Government Respond | E1253 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Feb 17, 2025 negative
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Ross: AI will exacerbate society's loss of drive and agency
“And so we have this sort of financial diabetes as a society, and I think it's going to get worse with AI.”
Jonathan Ross Feb 17, 2025 ▶ 1:10:08 Jonathan Ross, Founder & CEO @ Groq: NVIDIA vs Groq - The Future of Training vs Inference | E1260 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Feb 17, 2025 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Ross: Total AI Industry Returns Will Exceed Capital Invested Despite Mass Losses
“I can guarantee you that a huge amount of money will be incinerated. But I also bet that in total more money will be made than will be put in.”
Jonathan Ross Feb 17, 2025 ▶ 46:07 Jonathan Ross, Founder & CEO @ Groq: NVIDIA vs Groq - The Future of Training vs Inference | E1260 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Feb 17, 2025 positive
Disclosure
Groq gives every employee a 25 million token per second challenge coin
“Everyone at Grok carries this twenty five million token per second challenge coin. And what this is, is it tells everyone what we're doing.”
Jonathan Ross Feb 17, 2025 ▶ 1:13:33 Jonathan Ross, Founder & CEO @ Groq: NVIDIA vs Groq - The Future of Training vs Inference | E1260 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Feb 17, 2025 positive
Disclosure
Ross: Groq earns ~20% upfront margins on chip deployments
“Anywhere from, depending on the deal we do get some on the back side, but up front it's about 20%.”
Jonathan Ross Feb 17, 2025 ▶ 31:27 Jonathan Ross, Founder & CEO @ Groq: NVIDIA vs Groq - The Future of Training vs Inference | E1260 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Feb 17, 2025 bullish
Disclosure
Ross: Partners fund Groq's CapEx until target IRR is achieved
“So the deals that we do the partner will off, because we don't deploy, we don't spend money for our own capex. The partner will put up the money for us to deploy. We pay back with a, you know, decent IRR, and, but we split, and most of it goes to the partner, …”
Jonathan Ross Feb 17, 2025 ▶ 31:43 Jonathan Ross, Founder & CEO @ Groq: NVIDIA vs Groq - The Future of Training vs Inference | E1260 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Feb 17, 2025
Insight
Jonathan Ross: Training AI for intuitive reasoning requires 10x more data
“If your job is to get better at multiplying numbers, and I tell you that I want you to be able to do it with fewer steps, more intuitively, for you to be able to multiply three-digit numbers versus two-digit, you need 10 x the data, and you need 10 x the examp…”
Jonathan Ross Feb 17, 2025 ▶ 7:16 Jonathan Ross, Founder & CEO @ Groq: NVIDIA vs Groq - The Future of Training vs Inference | E1260 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Feb 17, 2025
Insight
Jonathan Ross: Competing directly means a startup failed to find unsolved problems
“If you're competing, it means that you haven't found an unsolved customer problem, because if you're competing, someone else has already solved the problem.”
Jonathan Ross Feb 17, 2025 ▶ 27:27 Jonathan Ross, Founder & CEO @ Groq: NVIDIA vs Groq - The Future of Training vs Inference | E1260 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Feb 17, 2025 negative
Opinion
Ross opposes 'founder mode', advocating delegation over micromanagement
“I'm anti-founder mode. I believe in delegation. I think when you are telling people how to do their job, that is an indication that it's not a, not necessarily a problem with you. It could just be that that person is not right for that job.”
Jonathan Ross Feb 17, 2025 ▶ 1:13:04 Jonathan Ross, Founder & CEO @ Groq: NVIDIA vs Groq - The Future of Training vs Inference | E1260 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Feb 17, 2025 positive
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Ross: AI could deliver longevity breakthrough within 10 years
“Belief is that if it is possible to significantly slow or stop aging, I think that you will have a Manjaro moment in maybe the next 10 years.”
Jonathan Ross Feb 17, 2025 ▶ 1:17:47 Jonathan Ross, Founder & CEO @ Groq: NVIDIA vs Groq - The Future of Training vs Inference | E1260 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Feb 17, 2025
Insight
Ross: Compute is a soft AI bottleneck that compensates for weak data
“Compute has been more of a less of a bottleneck and more of a sort of a, you know, soft neck or something, right? Where, when you provide even more compute, you can sort of overpower the lack of data, the lack of improvement in algorithms. So it's not a hard b…”
Jonathan Ross Feb 17, 2025 ▶ 7:56 Jonathan Ross, Founder & CEO @ Groq: NVIDIA vs Groq - The Future of Training vs Inference | E1260 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Feb 17, 2025 neutral
Assertion Supported
Ross: DeepSeek's breakthrough was an algorithmic gain in data generation
“There was an algorithmic improvement on that. And the algorithmic improvement, as I explained, you know, is this seemingly silly thing where they just wrote the answer in a box and then they knew what to look for rather than having to have a human being check …”
Jonathan Ross Feb 17, 2025 ▶ 8:40 Jonathan Ross, Founder & CEO @ Groq: NVIDIA vs Groq - The Future of Training vs Inference | E1260 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Feb 17, 2025 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Ross: Groq LPUs Cost 5x Less Than Latest GPUs for Inference
“More than five x lower. Just the memory alone in the latest GPUs costs more than our fully loaded CapEx per chip deployed.”
Jonathan Ross Feb 17, 2025 ▶ 29:06 Jonathan Ross, Founder & CEO @ Groq: NVIDIA vs Groq - The Future of Training vs Inference | E1260 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Feb 17, 2025 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Ross: GPU Operational Cost Alone Equals Groq Total CapEx plus OpEx
“So we use about a third of the energy per token. About over a three-year period, one-third of our cost is the OpEx, which is mostly energy and data center rent, and two-thirds is the CapEx, which means that since we're one-third of the energy, the cost to run …”
Jonathan Ross Feb 17, 2025 ▶ 29:18 Jonathan Ross, Founder & CEO @ Groq: NVIDIA vs Groq - The Future of Training vs Inference | E1260 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Feb 17, 2025 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Jonathan Ross: AI scaling is bottlenecked by compute, data, and algorithms simultaneously
“It is the compute. It is the data. It is the algorithms. It's all three of them.”
Jonathan Ross Feb 17, 2025 ▶ 7:48 Jonathan Ross, Founder & CEO @ Groq: NVIDIA vs Groq - The Future of Training vs Inference | E1260 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Feb 17, 2025
What-if
Ross: I would have mocked Musk's OpenAI bid using a Twitter $420 joke
“I would have probably said instead of whatever he said about nine billion, I would have said, yeah, I'm going to take Twitter public at 420 dollars a share.”
Jonathan Ross Feb 17, 2025 ▶ 1:15:22 Jonathan Ross, Founder & CEO @ Groq: NVIDIA vs Groq - The Future of Training vs Inference | E1260 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Sep 29, 2025 bullish
Opinion
Jonathan Ross: OpenAI and Anthropic Are Both Highly Undervalued
“I'd want to invest in both. They're both undervalued. Highly undervalued.”
Jonathan Ross Sep 29, 2025 ▶ 1:08:42 Groq Founder, Jonathan Ross: OpenAI & Anthropic Will Build Their Own Chips & Will NVIDIA Hit $10TRN · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Sep 29, 2025 neutral
Disclosure
Jonathan Ross has never sold any of his Groq shares
“Yeah, but I don't sell shares, so. ... Never.”
Jonathan Ross Sep 29, 2025 ▶ 1:12:43 Groq Founder, Jonathan Ross: OpenAI & Anthropic Will Build Their Own Chips & Will NVIDIA Hit $10TRN · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Sep 29, 2025 positive
Disclosure
Groq raised $750 million at a valuation near $7 billion
“So we raised seven hundred fifty million. ... Yeah, almost seven billion.”
Jonathan Ross Sep 29, 2025 ▶ 1:11:05 Groq Founder, Jonathan Ross: OpenAI & Anthropic Will Build Their Own Chips & Will NVIDIA Hit $10TRN · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Sep 29, 2025
Assertion Supported
Ross: NVIDIA will produce ~5.5M GPUs this year despite 50M die capacity
“If Nvidia wanted to, they could build fifty million of those GPU die, Per year. But they're going to build about 5.5 million GPUs this year.”
Jonathan Ross Sep 29, 2025 ▶ 14:48 Groq Founder, Jonathan Ross: OpenAI & Anthropic Will Build Their Own Chips & Will NVIDIA Hit $10TRN · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Sep 29, 2025 positive
Insight
Jonathan Ross: LLMs Are the Telescope of the Mind
“I think over time, we're gonna realize that LLMs are the telescope of the mind. That right now, they're making us feel really, really small. But in a hundred years, we're gonna realize that intelligence is more vast than we could have ever imagined, and we're …”
Jonathan Ross Sep 29, 2025 ▶ 1:30:39 Groq Founder, Jonathan Ross: OpenAI & Anthropic Will Build Their Own Chips & Will NVIDIA Hit $10TRN · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Sep 29, 2025 positive
Prediction Open · timeframe Sep 2030
Jonathan Ross: AI will cause massive labor shortages, not mass unemployment
“I believe that AI is going to cause massive labor shortages. Yeah, I don't think we're gonna have enough people to fill all the jobs that are gonna be created.”
Jonathan Ross Sep 29, 2025 ▶ 48:39 Groq Founder, Jonathan Ross: OpenAI & Anthropic Will Build Their Own Chips & Will NVIDIA Hit $10TRN · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Sep 29, 2025 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Ross: Coding will become a required skill for non-technical roles like marketing
“And coding is gonna become the same thing. For you to be in marketing, you're gonna have to be able to code. For you to be in customer service, you're gonna have to be code be able to code.”
Jonathan Ross Sep 29, 2025 ▶ 52:55 Groq Founder, Jonathan Ross: OpenAI & Anthropic Will Build Their Own Chips & Will NVIDIA Hit $10TRN · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Sep 29, 2025 positive
Disclosure
Jonathan Ross: Groq is currently operating 13 data centers globally
“We're now at 13 data centers. We have data centers in the United States, in Canada, in Europe in the Middle East.”
Jonathan Ross Sep 29, 2025 ▶ 1:18:36 Groq Founder, Jonathan Ross: OpenAI & Anthropic Will Build Their Own Chips & Will NVIDIA Hit $10TRN · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Sep 29, 2025 neutral
Insight
Ross: High margins trade competitive moat for market stability
“The real reason why you need higher margins is volatility, because if you have a razor thin margin and the market moves, you may not be able to raise more money, you may not be able to get a loan, and so what a margin does is it gives you stability and staying…”
Jonathan Ross Sep 29, 2025 ▶ 54:15 Groq Founder, Jonathan Ross: OpenAI & Anthropic Will Build Their Own Chips & Will NVIDIA Hit $10TRN · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Sep 29, 2025
Assertion Partly supported
Ross: NVIDIA effectively holds a monopsony on High Bandwidth Memory
“The thing is, Nvidia effectively has a monopsony on HBM.”
Jonathan Ross Sep 29, 2025 ▶ 14:26 Groq Founder, Jonathan Ross: OpenAI & Anthropic Will Build Their Own Chips & Will NVIDIA Hit $10TRN · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Sep 29, 2025
Insight
Ross: Hyperscaler AI spending is driven by existential survival, not ROI
“That's how the hyperscalers feel. So of course they're going to be spending like drunken sailors because the alternative is that they're completely locked out of their business. So it's not a purely economical framework that they're using. It's a, do we get to…”
Jonathan Ross Sep 29, 2025 ▶ 4:43 Groq Founder, Jonathan Ross: OpenAI & Anthropic Will Build Their Own Chips & Will NVIDIA Hit $10TRN · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Sep 29, 2025 neutral
Insight
Ross: Markets are only overheated if macro factors hinder corporate success
“In terms of whether or not the economy is overheated, I think one of the best predictors of that is, is the economy getting in the way of the success of the companies. If it's not getting in the way, then I don't think it's overheated.”
Jonathan Ross Sep 29, 2025 ▶ 1:03:37 Groq Founder, Jonathan Ross: OpenAI & Anthropic Will Build Their Own Chips & Will NVIDIA Hit $10TRN · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Sep 29, 2025
Insight
Ross: 10x compute scale will outperform a 10x smarter AI model
“You could have a model that is 10 times smarter than OpenAI's model. And if you have 10 times the compute, OpenAI's model's gonna be better.”
Jonathan Ross Sep 29, 2025 ▶ 42:29 Groq Founder, Jonathan Ross: OpenAI & Anthropic Will Build Their Own Chips & Will NVIDIA Hit $10TRN · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Sep 29, 2025
Prediction Open · timeframe Sep 2030
Ross: OpenAI, Anthropic, and all hyperscalers will build custom chips
“I have no doubt that OpenAI will be able to build its own chips. I have no doubt that eventually, Anthropic will be building their own chips, that every hyperscaler will build their own chip.”
Jonathan Ross Sep 29, 2025 ▶ 13:06 Groq Founder, Jonathan Ross: OpenAI & Anthropic Will Build Their Own Chips & Will NVIDIA Hit $10TRN · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Sep 29, 2025 bullish
Prediction Open · timeframe Sep 2030
Ross: AI deflation will lead to earlier retirement and shorter workweeks
“And what that means is people will need to work less. And that's gonna lead you to number two, which is people are gonna opt out of the economy more. They're gonna work fewer hours, they're gonna work fewer days a week, and they're gonna work fewer years. They…”
Jonathan Ross Sep 29, 2025 ▶ 49:32 Groq Founder, Jonathan Ross: OpenAI & Anthropic Will Build Their Own Chips & Will NVIDIA Hit $10TRN · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Sep 29, 2025 negative
Insight
Ross: Easy funding prevents AI startups from building critical talent mass
“Right now the biggest problem I see in AI is if you see a good engineer, one that you would have hired before, they can go out and they can raise 10, twenty, hundred million, a billion dollars, and then rather than contributing to one of the other AI startups,…”
Jonathan Ross Sep 29, 2025 ▶ 1:03:04 Groq Founder, Jonathan Ross: OpenAI & Anthropic Will Build Their Own Chips & Will NVIDIA Hit $10TRN · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Sep 29, 2025 positive
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Ross: Groq will drive cash flow via volume while minimizing margins
“I want my margin to be as low as I possibly can make it while keeping my business stable, and I'm going to make my cash flow by increasing the volume.”
Jonathan Ross Sep 29, 2025 ▶ 56:27 Groq Founder, Jonathan Ross: OpenAI & Anthropic Will Build Their Own Chips & Will NVIDIA Hit $10TRN · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Sep 29, 2025 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Ross: The tech talent war is more aggressive than ever in history
“It's definitely much more aggressive than it's ever been in history but only in tech.”
Jonathan Ross Sep 29, 2025 ▶ 1:04:31 Groq Founder, Jonathan Ross: OpenAI & Anthropic Will Build Their Own Chips & Will NVIDIA Hit $10TRN · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Sep 29, 2025
Insight
Ross: Big tech must spend on AI to protect Magnificent Seven valuations
“If you're not a member of the mag seven, You're not going to be able to get anywhere near the valuation. And so what do you do to stay there? You spend. And it's worth it because the stock value stays up because you're in the top seven or 10.”
Jonathan Ross Sep 29, 2025 ▶ 5:11 Groq Founder, Jonathan Ross: OpenAI & Anthropic Will Build Their Own Chips & Will NVIDIA Hit $10TRN · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jan 8, 2026
Assertion Partly supported
Lemkin: Jensen Huang closed NVIDIA's $20B Groq deal in two weeks
“He reached out to Jonathan Ross literally just weeks ago, and the deal closed for twenty billion within two weeks. And he told his whole team, I want it done before Christmas, and it was done ahead of time.”
Jason Lemkin Jan 8, 2026 ▶ 8:00 Groq’s $20BN NVIDIA Deal | Why Sam Altman Doesn’t Care About Dilution & Invisible Unemployment 2026 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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