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Turning Peter Thiel's $100K into $10M Angel Portfolio & Why VCs Can Be Sharks | Josh Browder · 20VC with Harry Stebbings May 18, 2026 · 49 mentions

  • ▶ 3:09 Josh Browder I started Do Not Pay in high school when I was 17, and
  • ▶ 4:49 Josh Browder Do Not Pay.
  • ▶ 9:52 Josh Browder Um, I was roommates with the founder of a company called Yuzu where, um, he worked at Do Not Pay, so he lived at the Do Not Pay house. 3 times in the scene
  • ▶ 16:06 Josh Browder Um, like so many founders, I, um, after Do Not Pay got, um, all of the hype and, um, we were starting to get a lot of usage. 4 times in the scene
  • ▶ 22:20 Harry Stebbings Can I ask you, when you think about, like, a really challenging time like that, seeing that news, can you take me to a really hard day you had with Do Not Pay, and how did you learn about yourself from it? 6 times in the scene
  • ▶ 30:02 Josh Browder Um, I would have just went like, um, do not pay.
  • ▶ 32:05 Josh Browder It was, it was like a, a schlep, um, and, um, do not pay servers were crashing, and I really am very bad at dancing, so, um, I had a, like, decision to make. 3 times in the scene
  • ▶ 39:41 Josh Browder And when I was starting Do Not Pay, um, I, I didn't know it was a Facebook house. 3 times in the scene
  • ▶ 51:34 Josh Browder Yeah, and it's not just law firms, um, even, um, consumers who use do not pay.
  • ▶ 56:00 Josh Browder I do not pay.
  • ▶ 1:00:43 Harry Stebbings Can I ask, you mentioned the dividend element there of Do Not Pay. 6 times in the scene
  • ▶ 1:03:16 Josh Browder I think from the very beginning, we were always, I mean, the clue is in the name, like, do not pay. 3 times in the scene
  • ▶ 1:05:09 Josh Browder Um, we are looking to kind of roll up some different consumer things within Do Not Pay, and so we, we're still, I'm still 10 years in, still extremely excited and ambitious, and who knows?
  • ▶ 1:05:54 Josh Browder Um, like, do not pay employees. 3 times in the scene
  • ▶ 1:07:04 Josh Browder But I think the future of AI will actually be organization specific, specifically around the data that do not pay has where we're doing evals on our own data.
  • ▶ 1:07:38 Josh Browder I think there'll be a rise of, um, medium sized businesses, like almost do not pays that fill the niche and then these massive companies, but the middle where there's just like a large company, I think they have to be very worried.
  • ▶ 1:14:52 Josh Browder You don't need, I mean, even with do not pay customer support, uh, we're seeing optimizations.
  • ▶ 1:19:18 Harry Stebbings Do you think you will make more money from your investing than you will do not pay? 3 times in the scene
  • ▶ 1:22:04 Josh Browder Um, I think do not pay as an ETF on the world's problems, and some problems go up, some problems go down.
  • ▶ 1:22:31 Josh Browder So, um, when I started Do Not Pay, I did a Freedom of Information Act request in the UK for the top 12 reasons why parking tickets are cancelled. 2 times in the scene
  • ▶ 1:26:11 Josh Browder They, they are, they are perfect target market for, um, do not pay.
  • ▶ 1:29:02 Josh Browder Um, there was like a no to, I couldn't, I'm do not pay, I'm an expert in bureaucracy.
  • ▶ 1:34:08 Josh Browder Um, and when I met him, uh, he was referencing obscure kind of things, uh, obscure tweets and things that are part of my Do Not Pay journey, so he really, really reads a lot about everything.
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