cloud provider

also referred to as: cloud providers

10 statements across 9 episodes · 2 bullish · 6 bearish · 9 people on the record · first statement Oct 14, 2016 by Moisey Uretsky · across every show →

Everything said about cloud provider, oldest first

Oct 14, 2016 negative
Opinion
Uretsky: Early cloud infrastructure providers were clunky and unpleasant to use
“Every single cloud provider was, you know, a bit clunky. It wasn't really elegant. It wasn't something that you enjoyed using”
Moisey Uretsky Oct 14, 2016 ▶ 6:01 20VC: How You Can Learn To Be A Great Business Leader & Why All Successful Business Must Be Loved or Needed with Moisey Uretsky, Founder @ Digital Ocean
Aug 10, 2018 negative
Opinion
Dadgar: Major cloud providers prioritize cheap scale over best-quality software
“What you tend to get from cloud scale is they're not there to build the best version of a thing. They're there to build, you know, the cheap thing that goes to scale.”
Armon Dadgar Aug 10, 2018 ▶ 11:59 20VC: Why Founding Your First Company Is Like Learning Through A Thousand Paper Cuts, The 3 Core Phases to Product Adoption and Why Valuation Obsession Must Change In The Valley with Armon Dadgar, Founder & CTO @ Hashicorp
Aug 10, 2018 neutral
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Dadgar: Cloud providers will only build infrastructure for their own platforms
“All of these clouds are going to build infrastructure that are tailored for Their own platforms.”
Armon Dadgar Aug 10, 2018 ▶ 12:41 20VC: Why Founding Your First Company Is Like Learning Through A Thousand Paper Cuts, The 3 Core Phases to Product Adoption and Why Valuation Obsession Must Change In The Valley with Armon Dadgar, Founder & CTO @ Hashicorp
Apr 29, 2024 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Mensch: Nvidia captures top AI margins while LLM margins lag traditional software
“NVIDIA is, at that point. The cloud providers are pretty much at cost LLM providers, we're not at cost hopefully, but the margin that, Are known to be lower than the typical software margins.”
Arthur Mensch Apr 29, 2024 ▶ 19:45 Arthur Mensch: Open vs Closed - Who Wins and Mistral's Position | E1146 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 10, 2024 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Every Scale Software Company Will Need Internal AI Teams
“So I do think that every cloud provider and frankly every scale software company Is going to need to have a serious provision within like they'll want to have some internal teams and some internal talent doing things. It doesn't necessarily need to be everyone…”
Reid Hoffman Jun 10, 2024 ▶ 11:10 Reid Hoffman: The Future of TikTok and The Inflection AI Deal | E1163 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jul 15, 2024 negative
Opinion
Stebbings: Big Tech cloud credits distort AI market valuations
“With the rise of corporate investing with Amazon investing with Google investing with Your largest cloud providers investing. They are no longer purely incentivized by the price of the deal. They're incentivized by the partnership, by the cloud credits. That's…”
Harry Stebbings Jul 15, 2024 ▶ 5:13 Saam Motamedi: Why Series B Won’t Make Money & Why $1M ARR is a BS Milestone for Series A | E1177 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Aug 19, 2024 negative
Opinion
Aidan Gomez: Becoming dependent on cloud providers is dangerous for AI startups
“It's really dangerous when you make yourself a subsidiary of your cloud provider.”
Aidan Gomez Aug 19, 2024 ▶ 0:21 Aidan Gomez: What No One Understands About Foundation Models | E1191 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jan 22, 2025 bullish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Sivulka: Switching cloud providers costs startups $10M-$20M, unlike AI models
“I can switch models readily. Like, I think there's even entire businesses now There will be an entire industry of being able to switch models from OpenAI to Anthropic when OpenAI goes down, but just to switch clouds is like, you know, for any, like, substantia…”
George Sivulka Jan 22, 2025 ▶ 45:03 George Sivulka, Co-Founder & CEO @Hebbia: The Future of Foundation Models | E1250 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jan 29, 2025 negative
Insight
Ross: Renting cloud GPUs is the biggest loophole in export controls
“Why would they try and smuggle in GPUs when all they'd have to do is log into any cloud provider and rent GPUs? This is like the biggest gaping hole in the whole way that export control is done. You can literally log in. You can swipe credit card, whatever, an…”
Jonathan Ross Jan 29, 2025 ▶ 9:43 Jonathan Ross: DeepSeek Special - How Should OpenAI and the US Government Respond | E1253 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 2, 2025 negative
Opinion
Mohan: Comparing AI model providers to cloud providers is inaccurate
“So I think ultimately your, the analogy to cloud providers is not accurate right now. They don't have the same properties. It's not the same kind of business right now.”
Varun Mohan Jun 2, 2025 ▶ 50:17 Windsurf CEO & Co-Founder, Varun Mohan: AI's Biggest Acquisition to Date! · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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