Chinese models

8 statements across 7 episodes · 1 bullish · 4 bearish · 6 people on the record · first statement Jan 29, 2025 by Jonathan Ross · across every show →

Everything said about Chinese models, oldest first

Jan 29, 2025
Disclosure
Ross: Groq previously refused to run Chinese AI models
“So we up until recently refused to run any Chinese models.”
Jonathan Ross Jan 29, 2025 ▶ 15:43 Jonathan Ross: DeepSeek Special - How Should OpenAI and the US Government Respond | E1253 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Sep 29, 2025 positive
Opinion
Ross: Anthropic should open-source older models to counter Chinese AI adoption
“I think that Anthropic should be open sourcing their previous generation in order to get people using them instead of the Chinese models.”
Jonathan Ross Sep 29, 2025 ▶ 33:32 Groq Founder, Jonathan Ross: OpenAI & Anthropic Will Build Their Own Chips & Will NVIDIA Hit $10TRN · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Apr 25, 2026 negative
Opinion
Masad: Adopting Chinese AI models poses security risks, not moral issues
“I don't think there's a moral issue per se. Like, I don't think they're using slave labor or anything like that to do that. I would have a security issue, especially since we have enterprise customers that, that depend on us for sensitive data and things like …”
Amjad Masad Apr 25, 2026 ▶ 15:22 Replit CEO: Why the SaaS Apocalypse is Justified & Why Coding Models are Plateauing | Amjad Masad · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jul 11, 2026 neutral
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Jain: Enterprise AI adoption hurdle is Chinese model origin, not open source
“From a point of view of open source and using the model, everybody's going to be fine. The question is going to be, are they okay with the Chinese model or not? That's the only question here. It's not open source versus closed source.”
Arvind Jain Jul 11, 2026 ▶ 13:53 ⁠Why OpenAI and Anthropic Won't Win the App Layer | Glean Founder · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Aug 2, 2026 bearish
Prediction Open · timeframe Aug 2031
Angelopoulos: China Unlikely to Ban Chinese AI Models in the US
“I don't really see them banning the use of Chinese models in the U.S. I don't think it makes sense for them.”
Anastasios Angelopoulos Aug 2, 2026 ▶ 17:08 Arena CEO: There Will be a $100BN US Open-Source Model & Data is a Trillion Dollar Market
Aug 9, 2026 bearish
Opinion
Atallah: US Enterprises Fear Frontier Models More Than Chinese Open Models
“I think they're more nervous about frontier models, usually. Part because there's just like a much, there's much more confusion around the data policy about what's like actually happening to the props that I'm sending and where they're being stored and how the…”
Alex Atallah Aug 9, 2026 ▶ 34:19 OpenRouter CEO: Why Chinese Open Models Are Beating the US | Why Enterprises Fear OpenAI & Anthropic
Aug 9, 2026 bearish
Opinion
Atallah: The US Remains Very Far Behind in Open-Weight AI Models
“We should. We're behind. America is very, very behind still.”
Alex Atallah Aug 9, 2026 ▶ 31:07 OpenRouter CEO: Why Chinese Open Models Are Beating the US | Why Enterprises Fear OpenAI & Anthropic
Aug 29, 2026 neutral
Assertion Supported
Reyes: Chinese AI models show no unique security backdoors versus US models
“For me, the Chinese models specifically have demonstrated no examples where they have some sort of security risk or backdoor compared to American models.”
Eno Reyes Aug 29, 2026 ▶ 45:35 Should American Enterprises Work With Open-Source Chinese Models? | Only 10% of Neo-labs survive
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