8VC

13 statements across 3 episodes · 5 bullish · 3 bearish · 2 people on the record · first statement Sep 27, 2017 by Drew Oetting · said 30 times in 8 episodes since 2016 · across every show →

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Sep 27, 2017 positive
Disclosure
Oetting: 8VC eliminated deal-by-deal carry and individual deal rewards
“So ABC, we've done away with all that. We've incentivized collaboration. So there's no concept of this is my deal or your deal. I might have responsibility for certain aspects of it because of course there needs to be Delegation. But there's no concept of rewa…”
Drew Oetting Sep 27, 2017 ▶ 8:48 20VC: Why VCs Have Forgotten Their Job To Invest In Entrepreneurs not Technologists, How To Know When Growth Creates Value and When It Destroys It & How To Bootstrap Learning Most People Acquire Over Decades with 8VC Founding Partner, Drew Oetting
Sep 27, 2017 negative
Opinion
Oetting: Standard VC fund structures barely fit modern startup exit timelines
“I think they are, but just barely. And I'm not sure that on the sort of for the best companies, they will be set up.”
Drew Oetting Sep 27, 2017 ▶ 6:45 20VC: Why VCs Have Forgotten Their Job To Invest In Entrepreneurs not Technologists, How To Know When Growth Creates Value and When It Destroys It & How To Bootstrap Learning Most People Acquire Over Decades with 8VC Founding Partner, Drew Oetting
Jul 7, 2020
Disclosure
Lonsdale: Overruling his negative vote at 8VC requires a supermajority
“On the investment side, I am not the single decision maker. We have a full investment committee. We vote. The only rule there is that if I vote against something, it requires like a super majority to overrule me. But in general, we go by majority vote.”
Joe Lonsdale Jul 7, 2020 ▶ 16:24 20VC: 8VC's Joe Lonsdale on How To Foster Contrarian Thinking Within Venture Partnerships, Why The Best VCs Are Company Builders & Why It Is Not Possible To Build Multi-Billion Dollar Companies and Have Worklife Balance
Jul 7, 2020 bearish
Prediction Not publicly verifiable
Lonsdale: 8VC's Bay Area investing share will drop to 40-50%
“I think when I first started the firm almost a decade ago, we were like 90% investing around here. I think the number is somewhere around 60% now around here, maybe, maybe kind of mid, maybe 60 to mid-sixties, and I could very easily see it going down to 40 or…”
Joe Lonsdale Jul 7, 2020 ▶ 20:38 20VC: 8VC's Joe Lonsdale on How To Foster Contrarian Thinking Within Venture Partnerships, Why The Best VCs Are Company Builders & Why It Is Not Possible To Build Multi-Billion Dollar Companies and Have Worklife Balance
Jul 7, 2020 positive
Disclosure
Lonsdale: 8VC advised portfolio founders to secure 18 to 24 months cash
“We've told people, as much as you can, get 18 to 24 months of cash. As much as you can, just your business is slow. This is all about survival. Assume the worst and do your best to survive in twenty-twenty.”
Joe Lonsdale Jul 7, 2020 ▶ 28:23 20VC: 8VC's Joe Lonsdale on How To Foster Contrarian Thinking Within Venture Partnerships, Why The Best VCs Are Company Builders & Why It Is Not Possible To Build Multi-Billion Dollar Companies and Have Worklife Balance
Jul 7, 2020
Insight
Lonsdale: Venture returns stem from exploiting technological conceptual gaps
“Both our investing and our entrepreneurship, we're looking for conceptual gaps in the world, right? We're looking for areas where here's what it is now, and here's what it could be. And then very often times these gaps, you can think of them as opening up as n…”
Joe Lonsdale Jul 7, 2020 ▶ 16:55 20VC: 8VC's Joe Lonsdale on How To Foster Contrarian Thinking Within Venture Partnerships, Why The Best VCs Are Company Builders & Why It Is Not Possible To Build Multi-Billion Dollar Companies and Have Worklife Balance
Jul 7, 2020 neutral
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Lonsdale: 8VC will allocate roughly 20% of capital to incubations
“So probably on the order of really only like a fifth of our capital will go towards it this time, give or take, and that's a very high IRR area.”
Joe Lonsdale Jul 7, 2020 ▶ 11:44 20VC: 8VC's Joe Lonsdale on How To Foster Contrarian Thinking Within Venture Partnerships, Why The Best VCs Are Company Builders & Why It Is Not Possible To Build Multi-Billion Dollar Companies and Have Worklife Balance
Jul 7, 2020 negative
Insight
Lonsdale: Venture theses are inadequate if McKinsey would publish them
“One of my rules is if McKinsey could have written this, that might be B or B plus work. It's not good enough for APC. It has to be something that's out there enough that McKinsey would have been maybe uncomfortable publishing it or writing about it.”
Joe Lonsdale Jul 7, 2020 ▶ 15:02 20VC: 8VC's Joe Lonsdale on How To Foster Contrarian Thinking Within Venture Partnerships, Why The Best VCs Are Company Builders & Why It Is Not Possible To Build Multi-Billion Dollar Companies and Have Worklife Balance
Jul 7, 2020 neutral
Prediction Held up
Lonsdale: 8VC will maintain a $640M fund size every two to three years
“I've kept the fund the same size the last few times, just because it doesn't seem like I'd have time to do more than we're doing right now. So I think six 40 every two to three years to me is about right for what we do.”
Joe Lonsdale Jul 7, 2020 ▶ 33:06 20VC: 8VC's Joe Lonsdale on How To Foster Contrarian Thinking Within Venture Partnerships, Why The Best VCs Are Company Builders & Why It Is Not Possible To Build Multi-Billion Dollar Companies and Have Worklife Balance
Jul 7, 2020 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Lonsdale: 8VC direct venture and incubation IRRs are around 30%
“It's hard to say whether or not it's outperforming the rest of it. It seems both sides look like they're in the thirties right now.”
Joe Lonsdale Jul 7, 2020 ▶ 11:50 20VC: 8VC's Joe Lonsdale on How To Foster Contrarian Thinking Within Venture Partnerships, Why The Best VCs Are Company Builders & Why It Is Not Possible To Build Multi-Billion Dollar Companies and Have Worklife Balance
Jul 7, 2020
Insight
Lonsdale: Winning mid-stage venture rounds requires insider leverage or esoteric focus
“For series B's and C's and D's, you have to have some really special unfair insider advantage where they're just willing to give you a much better deal or willing to work with you before going to market if you're going to be doing those types of investments. O…”
Joe Lonsdale Jul 7, 2020 ▶ 7:25 20VC: 8VC's Joe Lonsdale on How To Foster Contrarian Thinking Within Venture Partnerships, Why The Best VCs Are Company Builders & Why It Is Not Possible To Build Multi-Billion Dollar Companies and Have Worklife Balance
Mar 11, 2024 positive
Assertion Supported
Lonsdale: Speaking Publicly Has Not Hindered Building Billion-Dollar Companies
“I say the vast majority of what I think, as you could tell when you go and look at things that I've gotten in trouble for now, it hasn't stopped me from building many, many billion dollar companies. It hasn't stopped me from raising a lot of great funds becaus…”
Joe Lonsdale Mar 11, 2024 ▶ 14:45 Joe Lonsdale: The Future of TikTok; Is it a Danger to US National Security? | E1125 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Mar 11, 2024 bullish
Disclosure
Lonsdale: 8VC Identified 12 Sectors for $100B+ AI Service Displacement
“We've identified about 12 areas like this where we think there's gonna be more than a hundred billion dollars pulled out of those areas in terms of being able to go after them and create more efficient things.”
Joe Lonsdale Mar 11, 2024 ▶ 59:09 Joe Lonsdale: The Future of TikTok; Is it a Danger to US National Security? | E1125 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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