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Patel Thompson rejected pivoting Poppy into a profitable, high-priced boutique agency
“There was also an option to say, let's just make this a nice high-end tech-enabled agency, and folks were like, why didn't you just raise prices and do all that? I could have, I hundred percent could have, and turned it into a nice kind of like side business o…”
Childcare platforms struggle with tight margins between parent budgets and caregiver wages
“If you know the category that I'm working within is child care it's already an inherently margin-challenged kind of category. So what I mean by that is, like, what parents are willing and able to pay for this kind of work, and then what caregivers need to make…”
Unfiltered financial transparency creates pointless anxiety for junior startup staff
“What I soon realized as we started to grow towards eight, 10 people is that I can talk about these super ambiguous things, but I also have the power to do something about it. For more junior folks, you have to be, you know, what's the kinder thing, because you…”
Patel Thompson argues Poppy was not a failure despite lacking venture scale
“I think you could take a look and say Poppy was a failure. I think in some lenses, like that's the narrative, but I sort of pushed back on that because I don't think Poppy was a failure. Poppy set out to do and did the thing. Especially for thousands of parent…”
Thompson: Never give early products to friends and family for free
“This is also why I don't believe in friends and family discounts. And it's not to say that you don't maybe give them discounts or things like that, but just don't give it to them for free, right? Because that won't give you the right signal for where, whether …”
Thompson: Curiosity and frustration are better motivators than passion
“The tricky thing about passion is that it can make you confident. It can make you feel like you know the answer. But with curiosity, it keeps you humble and it keeps you asking the questions. And frustration just gives you the motivation to get going.”
Thompson: Innovative startups have no experts aside from users
“You're trying to do something that's never been done before. There are no experts. The only way you can do this is by talking to your users, and then iterating your way forward, inching forward.”
Scaling caregiving platforms degrades the personal relationship into generic gig work
“At a bigger scale, it turns into yet another kind of gig economy job, which isn't good or bad, but it just, you know, has an implication when we're looking at, is that what that labor pool wants to do is yet another kind of gig job. And so that just changed th…”
Pivoting Poppy would have required cutting the team six months earlier
“I think the truth of the matter is, is if we had wanted to pivot, we probably should have done that, you know, six months prior. If I was going to cut the team and leave a good chunk of money in the in the bank to be able to do that I probably needed more time…”
Patel Thompson shared exact bank balances and default dates with all employees
“Even towards the end, our investor update went to everybody. From the most junior folks to my COO I believe in transparency. I believe in educating people on what do the numbers mean. So, Even that very last investor update, every single person saw exactly how…”
Patel Thompson shut down Poppy quickly to conserve remaining runway for severance
“Every month that you continue to kind of persist, you're burning money, right? And for me, it didn't feel responsible to continue to do that. Instead, could I repurpose that and say, Hey, we're going to call it as quickly as possible, conserve a little bit of …”
Thompson: Surveys fail because users struggle to articulate their problems
“That's where I think also like surveys and things like that can be limiting because people sometimes a can't articulate what their problem is in the way that they want to. But sometimes there's other emotions at war like shame or embarrassment or things like t…”
Thompson: There is never an ideal time for kids or startups
“The same way that there's no good time to start a startup, there's no good time to have kids. You'll figure it out.”
Thompson: In 2011 Shanghai, 40% corporate growth felt like sandbagging
“You start working there and 40% growth rates feel like sandbagging. And if you can imagine something like that, and we're coming from the U S where one to two percent is like, cool, we're growing. 40% is sandbagging.”
Thompson: The only real startup idea validation is paying customers
“When people tell me, oh, I've been talking about my idea and everyone loves it. I say, be careful. Because everyone loves you, or you can sell an idea, and there's nothing, no skin off their back to say, no, that's a really great idea. I can't believe no one's…”
Thompson: Modern parents lack reliable support networks, not just babysitters
“As I started to hear that, I realized that what people weren't talking about was just needing a sitter or nanny. What they were missing was this idea of their village. And so everyone says it takes a village to raise a child, but you know, all of us are moving…”
Thompson: Childcare support networks require vetting, matching, and scheduling
“And so for me, it was that if a village is a function of, you know, someone that you trust is a fit for your family from like a values standpoint and is there when you need them to be could you break it down from technology, from a vetting mechanism, a matchin…”
Thompson: Founders can validate a startup's viability within a four-week test
“And so if you use the construct of a four week test inside of four weeks, you can know whether you have something or if you don't.”
Thompson: Ask every rejecting investor for three introductions
“So every person, even if you say no, introduce me to three others. And that's sort of like this little kind of breadcrumb trail that leads you to all the craziest kind of places, but eventually you will find your people and a couple will tip and that's the mom…”
Thompson: Product-market fit solves friction so completely users have no choice
“Stripping it down for me again, I think about it from a consumer standpoint, product market fit has to do with the fact that you're solving their problem. You're solving their problem, the friction that they experience in their lives so well, so completely tha…”
Thompson: Parents need a replacement village, not just sitter matchmaking
“And as I started talking to different people, I realized that the thing that they didn't need was a parent connecting to a sitter. The thing that wasn't being said was that we were all missing our village.”
Patel Thompson: Raising startup capital merely buys time to run experiments
“The money is not something to be celebrating. It was more relief because the money buys us time and time to run those valuable kind of experiments and to be able to figure out the next thing.”
Patel Thompson shut down Poppy due to unscalable unit economics
“Recently decided that looking at all of the things the economics and everything that it wasn't a viable, scalable proposition. And so made the hard decision to shut it down in December”
Poppy's steady monthly growth missed high-growth venture capital marketplace expectations
“Throughout, you know, the growth of poppy, we've always been solid. Like we've always been solid and growing. But to the point of like maybe five to 10%, and that's not bad. I mean, in fact, like for some of these kind of marketplaces, that's really good. It w…”
Patel Thompson stretched Poppy's two million dollar funding across three years
“I was able to then take the little bit over two million that we raised. And have that last over, I think, like three years.”
Thompson built Poppy's initial prototype with Squarespace, Typeform, Excel, and SMS
“Typeform, like Squarespace, I can do a four week trial, Typeform do signups and things like that. I can use Excel as a database. I can use a Google Calendar as a scheduler and SMS trying to connect it all.”
Thompson validated Poppy by emailing 15 parents and getting four bookings
“So literally sent an email to the 15 parents and just said, Hey, I've got these three amazing people. If you need them, just text this phone number. And I gave them a phone number as my phone number. And that day got our first booking and that week I got four.”
Thompson and her spouse use a strict alternating primary parent schedule
“One is you have to be very specific about boundaries. And what that means for me is there's certain days that I'm on and I have to be a hundred percent founder. I can't think about, you know, it sounds sort of harsh, but I can't think about my kids and like al…”
Thompson: Poppy's initial MVP was built on Squarespace, Typeform, Stripe, and Excel
“I had a landing page on Squarespace, signups and feedback forms were done through Typeform, Stripe handled the payments, I did scheduling via Google Calendar, communication with SMS, and my database was Excel.”
Thompson: YC's value is giving diverse founders a shared product language
“What I love about YC is because we come from very different backgrounds. We're doing very different things, solving very different problems, but we speak a common language. We're trying to do, you know, we're trying to all talk to users. We're all trying to bu…”
Thompson bootstrapped her first startup with $20K before shutting it down
“We spent about a year and truthfully about 20,000 dollars of personal money bootstrapping. And ultimately came to the realization that this was not a fundable, scalable company. And instead of running it as a small business and sort of like a lifestyle busines…”
Thompson: Poppy serves thousands of families in Seattle
“We're serving thousands of families in Seattle right now, and it's an incredible thing to be a part of, especially because Poppy almost didn't exist.”
Thompson: Co-founders invested $20,000 each of personal savings in first startup
“We had both invested about 20,000 dollars of our own savings, and we had figured if we'd launched, then we'll just be able to raise money then, and it'll all be wonderful.”
Thompson: Niche subscription box failed due to unsustainable customer acquisition costs
“The cost of acquiring these niche customers was just way too high, and it didn't make sense for the one or two boxes that they were buying.”
Poppy founder Avni Patel Thompson is not a programmer
“I wasn't then, and I'm not now, a programmer.”
Thompson: Poppy grew weekly bookings from four to ten across four weeks
“That day, I got my first booking, and that week, I got my first four. Every single week, I just set the goal to see if I could just grow 10 or 20%. Well, that next week, instead of just five, I hit six. The week after seven, the week after 10, I was blowing pa…”