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Srinivas: Google possessed only fourth or fifth best AI models in 2023-2024
“And 2024, 20 23 especially, and large part of 2024 too, Google had like, maybe a fourth or fifth best models at any moment. So as a startup outside Google, you had access to AI that was better than what Google internally had.”
Srinivas: Autonomous mobile AI agents can only be built inside web browsers
“And agents can only be built with a browser. I, I'm very, like, convinced about that vision, that if you want to have a mobile agent, That you can actually build and implement without being restricted by whatever OS rules that Apple or Google sets in terms of …”
Microsoft messed up its AI search opportunity with Bing Chat
“Microsoft was never really good at consumer products for a long, long time. You can't suddenly change that. So they actually messed up the opportunity, in my opinion.”
Srinivas: Perplexity's primary strategic bet for the future is an AI browser
“The browser. That's the big bet we are making as far as the future of the company goes.”
Srinivas: OpenAI and Anthropic Will Both Build Their Own Browsers
“That said, I'm fully working with the assumption that OpenAI will also build its own browser. Anthropic will also try to build its own browser.”
Srinivas: Google's ad model disincentivizes providing direct search answers
“If you get direct answers to these questions with booking links right there, how are you going to mint money from booking and Expedia and Kayak and like, you know, all like same, same, same thing for shopping. How are you going to take money from Amazon and li…”
Srinivas: Google rebrands and announces the same AI search features every year
“The same feature is being launched year after year after year with a different name, with a different VP, with a different group of people, but it's the same thing. Except maybe it's getting better, but it's never getting launched to everybody.”
Srinivas: Phone Makers Will Offer Multiple AI Search Alternatives
“The phone makers will start offering all of them as alternatives. It's not going to be like a locked-in default search option.”
Srinivas: OpenAI's built-in search features in ChatGPT did not kill Perplexity
“OpenAI has perplexity within ChatGPT that did not kill any of these companies.”
Srinivas: No AI product has in-app network effects yet
“No AI product has within app network effect. Like it's not like WhatsApp where if you build a WhatsApp rival, Meta has a definitely like a questionable brand, right? Like people don't necessarily trust Meta's products. They think like these are ad products. De…”
Srinivas: Browser-native agents offer superior reliability over MCP-only approaches
“That's the key advantage of the browser that you do not have if you commit entirely to just the MCP vision. If you commit entirely to the MCP vision, you require these third-party MCP servers to work reliably. Ah, the data that they send you, ah, on, with the …”
Srinivas: Perplexity can reach billions annually in subscription revenue alone
“We think, like, we can grow at least, you know, a few billions a year in just subs, which is a great business.”
Srinivas: Foundation model labs will copy any high-revenue AI startup idea
“You should assume that if you have a big hit, if your company is something that can make revenue on the scale of hundreds of millions of dollars, or potentially billions of dollars, you should always assume that a model company will copy it. Mainly because the…”
Srinivas: SEO-gaming websites will definitely have a harder time
“But those who are trying to game the SEO system and trying to get traffic, I think they're definitely going to have a harder time.”
Ilya Sutskever defined AGI as unsupervised learning containing reinforcement learning
“And then he told me the only thing that matters is he drew two circles. One big circle, called it unsupervised learning, and then inside he said, reinforcement learning, another circle, and he said, this is AGI, every other research doesn't matter.”
Search and autonomous driving are the only AI product data flywheels
“There are probably only two problems where you can work on AI and also build product at the same time. One is like search, and the other is self-driving car.”
Inference-time search gives startups a structural advantage over Google's legacy index
“There's one way of doing these things where we go to each of these domains and like try to build an index of it and put it into specific formats like tables and then have the LLM, like read that. In a structured language of SQL, or you could do the other way w…”
Google cannot replicate Perplexity directly on its cluttered search homepage
“They cannot make this exact product on the Google homepage. It's so hard to know when a query is purely informational or not, and then the Google search page is already, like, so cluttered, that's the answer box, the knowledge panel,”
Whoever builds a billion-user AI query orchestrator will become the next Google
“That sort of router, that, that orchestrator, I think that's the hardest thing to build, and whoever builds that, and can operate that at a scale of billion users, and also knows how to monetize, like, some of those queries really well, is going to be the next…”
Google has better consumer product taste than both OpenAI and Anthropic
“Out of the list you mentioned, Google is the only company that actually has the product taste to do this.”
Search industry revenue must decline as users shift directly to AI agents
“Search revenue has to go down in a world where people are just directly talking to AIs and agents are doing stuff for them.”
Srinivas: An AI browser is much harder to copy than chat tools
“The browser is much harder to copy than, like yet another chat tool.”
Srinivas: Speed is a startup's only defensible moat against AI incumbents
“And the only mode you have is speed. You have to innovate. You have to move faster than everybody else.”
Srinivas: Perplexity bet LLMs would handle reasoning over unstructured data
“So we bet on the fact that language models can do all the reasoning and parsing and like structuring later, but the more important thing is to start with something more unstructured, and that ended up becoming perplexity.”
Srinivas: ChatGPT's dominance prompted Perplexity to pivot to building a browser
“ChatGPT is the most successful consumer AI product out there, and so competing against it is very difficult, which is why I really want to, like, push the company more on the browser side, and I think Comet, the browser, will be an abstraction layer about chat…”
Srinivas: Perplexity mandates that engineers use AI tools like Cursor or Copilot
“We made it mandatory to use at least one AI coding tool, and internally at perplexity it happens to be cursor and like a mix, mix of cursor and GitHub Copilot. But yeah, we definitely made it compulsory.”
Srinivas: Claude Code appears to be far smarter than Cursor
“Claude code seems to be far smarter than, like, what Cursor is able to do.”
Srinivas: Millions of paying users provide startups brand durability against incumbents
“So there is a certain brand value that once you acquire at the scale of, like, several millions of users, paying users, you don't actually die that fast.
[1380] Aravind Srinivas: You earn the right to survive and keep building.”
Srinivas: Perplexity maintains the fastest time-to-first-token despite performing live web searches
“We focus on speed, time to first token on app or web, like we're still the fastest despite doing search.”
Srinivas: Forcing AI on massive mainstream user bases is difficult
“There are a lot of people in the world who hate AI, by the way, so I think just throwing AI down people's throats on such a, you know, massive distribution area is not easy.”
Srinivas: Users will hate AI answers if ads are embedded into them
“If ads are part of every AI answer, you're going to hate it too.”
Srinivas: Mobile apps will resist adopting MCP servers for AI
“Expecting every mobile app to have MCP servers and then, like, connecting all their data to your thing, It's not going to be that straightforward. Like, nobody wants to be disintermediated by an AI that quickly.”
Companies cannot expect their 250th engineering hire to be obsessively detail-oriented
“The obsessive detail-oriented people there are only that many people in the world, so obviously you cannot expect engineer number 250 to be like that.”
Srinivas: AI browsers should be assistants combining navigation, search, and agents
“We think about it as an assistant rather than a complete autonomous agent, but one omnibox where you can navigate, you can ask informational queries, and you can give agentic tasks, and your AI with you on your new tab page, on your sidecar as an assistant on …”
Srinivas: Sundar Pichai is personally doing bug support on X
“Like I've noticed even Sundar is doing bug support on X right now.”
Srinivas: Perplexity started without a clear idea, defying YC advice
“We started the company without actually having clear idea of what to build, which is the opposite of what YC advice is, which is start from a project and turn it into a company.”
Srinivas: Vibe coding cannot replace traditional infrastructure and distributed systems engineering
“Like we frequently run into infra issues, and you don't want a vibe coder right there fixing it on live things on production. Like, I do want, like, people well trained in regular software engineering, infrastructure, distributed systems. Like, you don't want …”
Srinivas: Perplexity partners with Shopify, Yelp, and TripAdvisor for vertical search
“We already work with self book. They power all the hotel bookings natively done on perplexity. We work at TripAdvisor to surface all the reviews of hotels and Different, you know, places. We have, like, collaborations for the maps. We work with Yelp. We also, …”
Srinivas: Task-based pricing for AI agents will become a major model
“Usage-based pricing. Where people are paying an agent for completing a task, or people have recurring tasks, and they pay based on, you know, every single use of the task, and they normalize this system based on, like, how much it would take to hire a person t…”
Srinivas: Google avoided transactions because CPA margins trail CPCs
“CPAs have historically been way lower margins than CPCs, which is why Google never became a transaction platform.”
Srinivas: Browsers are the natural graduation step from search engines
“And browser and search are not two distinctive products. They're actually, like, the browser is a natural graduation step from search. Just like how Google graduated from Google search to Chrome. And Chrome is the main reason they got billions of daily queries…”
Srinivas: Web traffic power law will become even more skewed
“I think that there are going to be, ah, you know, the web is already pretty long tail, ah, and there's a massive power law, so I feel like the power law is going to get even more skewed. That is very obvious.”
Srinivas: AI search should offer all perspectives on subjective topics
“Now there are things that don't have one clear accurate answer. I think they're the best thing we can do is offer all the perspectives. And not really take a clear opinion on like what is right and wrong when there's no clear answer to that question.”
OpenAI built a slow, internal web browsing prototype called Truthbot
“OpenAI even had a bot when I worked there called the Truthbot, which John, John built with this team. Where you could ask it a question and it'll go and search the web, and then it'll give you an answer with some sources. And it was very slow, and it was built…”
Releasing follow-up questions doubled user engagement time on Perplexity
“And then we released the ability to ask follow-up questions. That doubled the engagement time on the site, and also increased the number of questions every day, and the number of people, number of questions every day was increasing exponentially.”
Most Perplexity follow-up queries are completely irrelevant to the initial search
“Most of the follow-up queries actually we see are, like, completely irrelevant to the first query, because they just want to keep continuing the session.”
Perplexity is slowing its development speed to protect production reliability
“Well, it's beginning to happen already a little bit, right? We're not as fast as we used to be. I think some of it is not because of people. It's also because things breaking in production, people start losing trust in the product.”