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Betts-Lacroix: Mint scaled by scraping bank websites using voluntarily submitted credentials

Joe Betts-Lacroix · Cory Doctorow and Joe Betts-Lacroix on Adversarial Interoperability · Y Combinator · Nov 27, 2019 · at 6:31

Joe Betts-Lacroix, CTO of VIUM and YC Expert, gives an example of a startup successfully employing adversarial interoperability against incumbent banks.

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“So a friend of mine, Aaron Patzer, created something called Mint and ended up taking a bunch of eyeballs from big banks and other financial companies by hacking, essentially going, doing adversarial interoperability with their websites by scraping, which is sort of marginally legal.”

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The claim, plainly

Aaron Patzer built personal finance startup Mint by using adversarial interoperability to scrape bank websites using voluntarily submitted user credentials.

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Assessment

The research notes fully corroborate all parts of the claim. Aaron Patzer founded Mint in 2006 as a personal finance management tool. Mint aggregated user financial data primarily by prompting users to voluntarily provide their online banking login credentials, which were then used by automated bots (initially via data aggregator Yodlee, and later supplemented by in-house aggregation tools) to screen-scrape bank websites without explicit bank partnerships or official direct APIs. This architecture is widely cited by technical analysts and organizations like the Electronic Frontier Foundation as a textbook historical example of adversarial interoperability.

Aaron Patzer founded Mint (Mint Software, Inc.) in 2006, requiring users to enter online banking login credentials to aggregate account data.
Mint predominantly relied on automated screen-scraping of bank web interfaces via aggregators like Yodlee and internal scrapers rather than official direct bank APIs.
The technical and legal mechanism of scraping financial data via voluntarily supplied user credentials without bank consent is widely cited as a foundational case study of adversarial interoperability.

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[1] wikipedia.org [2] eff.org [3] time.com [4] softwareplatform.net [5] cbsnews.com [6] ycombinator.com [7] noahpinion.blog [8] quora.com

"Aaron Patzer" "screen scraping" OR "Yodlee" Mint Mint com Aaron Patzer screen scraping bank login credentials Mint Aaron Patzer screen scraping Yodlee bank credentials Mint aggregation screen scraping Yodlee direct APIs "Aaron Patzer" "Yodlee" "scraped" OR "scraping" Cory Doctorow "Mint" "adversarial interoperability"

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