Nadella: The ultimate benchmark for AI is creating broad economic surplus
Satya Nadella · Satya Nadella: Microsoft's AI Bets, Hyperscaling, Quantum Computing Breakthroughs · Y Combinator · Jun 25, 2025 · at 3:38
Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella discusses how to evaluate real-world AI impact during a fireside chat with Garry Tan at YC's AI Startup School.
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“It's for one thing and one thing alone, which is to drive ultimately economic growth and GDP growth. So if I had to ask me my benchmark for AI is, is it creating surplus in the world around us? One community, one country, one industry, one company at a time.”
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