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Sonnad: EV economics are optimal for 50-to-300-mile regional trips

Hayden Sonnad · #11 Tesloop · Mar 3, 2025 · at 6:50

Hayden Sonnad, founder of Tesloop, pitches his intercity electric transit service on The Pitch and defines the operational sweet spot for EV passenger travel.

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“50 to 300 is our target distance, is what we call the electric hall, where the economics of electric cars really benefit you. Because further than that, you have to charge the car too much. Shorter than that, like a gas powered car kind of benefits you because you don't have to charge.”

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