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Hausman: End-to-end learning is the only viable path to solve robotics

Karol Hausman · The Race to Create General-Purpose Robots | Karol Hausman & Lachy Groom on TBPN · Apr 26, 2025 · at 16:43

Karol Hausman, co-founder of Physical Intelligence, contrasts deterministic C++ control systems with end-to-end neural network approaches in robotics.

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“There's another reason to do end-to-end learning, which is, this is, I think, the only thing that has a chance of working.”

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