AI is a sustaining innovation for software incumbents, but disrupts Google
Mike Vernal · Why Patience Is the Secret to Building Iconic Companies | Mike Vernal on TBPN · Apr 26, 2025 · at 17:42
Investor Mike Vernal analyzes the impact of generative AI on incumbents and growth-stage companies using Clayton Christensen's innovation framework.
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“In the sustaining versus disruptive innovation, I think AI is like pretty clearly a sustaining innovation in almost all cases. I think it like might be disruptive to Google. And so assuming like a scale up is still Competent and can still build new product. I think they can just kind of adopt this stuff as opposed to being disrupted by it.”
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