Scale AI

7 statements across 4 episodes · 5 bullish · 0 bearish · 1 people on the record · first statement Oct 24, 2024 by John Coogan · said 112 times in 28 episodes since 2024 · across every show →

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Oct 24, 2024 positive
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Coogan: Scale AI pays international contractors using a Bridge-powered product
“With bridge, the one Really interesting example that I did see of, like, a company using this, and it was a perfect example of this was scale. So they have a bunch of contractors internationally. They want to pay them quickly in dollars because there's no fluc…”
John Coogan Oct 24, 2024 ▶ 39:29 Crypto is Back Baby (ep5)
Dec 17, 2024 bullish
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Third-party contractors are not a valid Scale AI bear case
“And it's the, it's such a midwit take to be like, oh, did you know that scale AI uses third party contractors? It's like, Yeah, that's the whole point of the business. Like, have you heard of comparative advantage? Like, this is like econ one-on-one people. Li…”
John Coogan Dec 17, 2024 ▶ 1:29:58 CHRISTIANITY: Why it's making a comeback (ep23)
Jun 14, 2025 positive
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Meta is buying a 49 percent stake in Scale AI for $15B
“Meta is paying fifteen billion. I thought it was 1415, something like that for a 49% stake in scale AI that pays out investors and employees. CEO Alex Wang is leaving to join Meta and head up a super intelligence lab.”
John Coogan Jun 14, 2025 ▶ 2:43:38 Weekly Recap: Apple WWDC, Andrew Huberman, YC Demo Day, Intern Phone Assembly, $14B Meta x Scale
Jun 14, 2025 neutral
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Snap's market cap equals Meta's $14B Scale AI deal
“Snaps market cap, exactly what meta just paid for a 50% stake in scale AI, fourteen billion.”
John Coogan Jun 14, 2025 ▶ 8:58 Weekly Recap: Apple WWDC, Andrew Huberman, YC Demo Day, Intern Phone Assembly, $14B Meta x Scale
Jun 21, 2025 bullish
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Coogan: Surge AI has been profitable since inception, unlike Scale AI
“And unlike scale, surge was profitable and has been from the beginning, Chen said.”
John Coogan Jun 21, 2025 ▶ 43:38 Weekly Recap: Elon's Starship Explodes, OpenAI's Defense Contract, Nvidia's Robots, We Test Cluely
Jun 21, 2025 bullish
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Coogan: Surge AI generated over $1B in 2024, surpassing Scale AI
“The company generated more than one billion dollars in revenue last year. Surge has told employees, a previously reported figure that exceeds The eight hundred and seventy million dollars scale generated in revenue during the same time period.”
John Coogan Jun 21, 2025 ▶ 43:25 Weekly Recap: Elon's Starship Explodes, OpenAI's Defense Contract, Nvidia's Robots, We Test Cluely
Jun 21, 2025 neutral
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Coogan: Surge AI bills two to five times more than Scale AI
“Chen has distinguished Surge by making it the high-end shop, charging premium rates often two to five times what scale might bill.”
John Coogan Jun 21, 2025 ▶ 46:04 Weekly Recap: Elon's Starship Explodes, OpenAI's Defense Contract, Nvidia's Robots, We Test Cluely
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