SaaS

18 statements across 15 episodes · 8 bullish · 4 bearish · 11 people on the record · first statement Mar 12, 2025 by Sam Lessin · across every show →

Everything said about SaaS, oldest first

Mar 12, 2025 bullish
Insight
Lessin: Startups with transformative tech should buy customers, not sell SaaS
“So if you have an actually transformative technology and you can swing it, you're better off buying your customers. Right. And then deploying your technology, but that credit that's predicated on actually having a better technology.”
Sam Lessin Mar 12, 2025 ▶ 21:24 Sam Lessin on Meta, Artificial Intelligence, and Investing in Creators.
Apr 6, 2025 negative
Opinion
Handmer: Hard Tech Is Significantly Less Efficient for Venture Capital Than SaaS
“The reality is it's extremely capital intensive. It operates on a different set of both physical and legal laws than SAS. And that, that actually makes it, you know, significantly less efficient, I think in terms of, The health and functionality of a typical V…”
Casey Handmer Apr 6, 2025 ▶ 7:07 Casey Handmer (Terraform) on Turning Sunlight and Air into Fuel
Apr 10, 2025 neutral
Insight
Crivello: Only 5% of a phone agent startup's work is core phone code
“When you build a computer use startup, I surmise that maybe five percent of your bandwidth is the actual, not, sorry, not computer use, phone agents. Five percent of your work is actually phone, like, phone code and phone whatnot, right? The rest is, like, the…”
Flo Crivello Apr 10, 2025 ▶ 9:18 What AI and LEGO Have in Common | Flo Crivello on TBPN April 7th
Apr 10, 2025 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Ramade: Entire SaaS companies will become mere software features
“What we considered a SaaS company is now just going to be a feature for in the future.”
Pratap Ramade Apr 10, 2025 ▶ 13:44 How AI Can Enable AMBITION| | Pratap Ramade on TBPN April 8th
Apr 17, 2025
Assertion Supported
Randle: Over 80 public SaaS companies generate more than $500M ARR
“Right now there are over 80 public SaaS companies that have more than five hundred million dollars of ARR.”
Everett Randle Apr 17, 2025 ▶ 6:23 You Shouldn't IPO - Here's Why | Everett Randle on TBPN April 10th
May 31, 2025 positive
Insight
Balaji: Startup societies must scale demographics like enterprise SaaS
“In the same way, like you first kind of have to build a product that works for like the individual remote worker, then maybe the couple where it's a two body problem, then like, you know, the early family, then the scaled up family, then like the whole communi…”
Balaji Srinivasan May 31, 2025 ▶ 17:39 Weekend Special: Elon Recap, Balaji, Chris Dixon, Brian Armstrong, Crypto Day + Thiel Fellows
Aug 16, 2025 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Randle: AI Revenue Quality Could Exceed SaaS When Monetizing Like Labor
“I do think as some customers crack these agentic products that look and Monetize more like labor. AI revenue could actually exceed the quality of SAS revenue just because you're getting so much more gross profit per customer or like customer relationship than …”
Everett Randle Aug 16, 2025 ▶ 1:56:33 Weekly Recap: Sam vs. Elon, Cluely's Crazy Ad, UFC x Paramount, Apple's AI Robot
Aug 16, 2025
Insight
Randle: 2010s SaaS Faced Much Lower Competition Than Today's Software
“The competitive intensity of SaaS during the twenty-tens was much, much, much lower than it is today. Like during the twenty-tens, there was an entire crop of companies in the 2000, but then especially in the twenty-tens, you could basically pick either a vert…”
Everett Randle Aug 16, 2025 ▶ 1:40:06 Weekly Recap: Sam vs. Elon, Cluely's Crazy Ad, UFC x Paramount, Apple's AI Robot
Oct 28, 2025
Insight
Nadella: AI fundamentally alters software economics by introducing true marginal costs
“This one is interestingly enough, both a tech shift, a business model shift, because this is the first time you have marginal cost software that's not like COGS of the SaaS world, but true marginal cost. And three, the way you produce your artifact, your softw…”
Satya Nadella Oct 28, 2025 ▶ 21:12 Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella Live on TBPN
Jan 8, 2026 neutral
Assertion Supported
Altman dubbed emerging AI software era 'fast fashion for SaaS'
“We're supposed to be going into the Timu SAS era, or Sheehan, fast fashion for SAS is what Sam Altman called it.”
John Coogan Jan 8, 2026 ▶ 9:56 xAI Raises $20B, Anthropic’s $350B Valuation, OpenAI Launches ChatGPT Health | Diet TBPN
Feb 11, 2026 neutral
Insight
Gerstner: SaaS multiples only rebound if companies accelerate revenue via AI
“So the only way that reverses Scott is those companies have to accelerate their core revenues and show that they are beneficiaries of AI.”
Brad Gerstner Feb 11, 2026 ▶ 18:05 Elon’s go-to banker leads SpaceX IPO, SaaSination, Bejing’s robot Boom | Diet TBPN
Feb 11, 2026 bearish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Hays: The real SaaS crash won't begin until frontier AI labs IPO
“I think the real Sasspocalypse might not start until you have some of the labs public, and people can actually really rotate out of software fully and say, I don't want to own this thing that I don't fully understand how AI is going to impact it when I could o…”
Jordi Hays Feb 11, 2026 ▶ 18:14 Elon’s go-to banker leads SpaceX IPO, SaaSination, Bejing’s robot Boom | Diet TBPN
Feb 19, 2026 negative
Insight
Coogan: AI is a disruptive, not sustaining, innovation for SaaS
“This is a disruptive innovation, this is not a sustaining innovation like mobile or cloud. The AI version of, you know, X, Y, or Z SaaS company will not be like the mobile version of that SaaS company.”
John Coogan Feb 19, 2026 ▶ 4:02 The SaaSpocalypse Is Over
Feb 19, 2026 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Coogan: SaaS is bifurcating into 'sloppable' and 'unsloppable' companies
“I do think we're starting to see a bifurcation in the sloppable companies and the unsloppable companies. There should be some Divergence between companies that have figured out how to integrate with AI, how to retool their business model, or just show that the…”
John Coogan Feb 19, 2026 ▶ 0:17 The SaaSpocalypse Is Over
Feb 20, 2026 bullish
Opinion
Coogan: SaaS market will split into AI-native and vulnerable companies
“I do think we're starting to see a bifurcation in the sloppable companies and the unsloppable companies. There should be some divergence between companies that have figured out how to integrate with AI, how to retool their business model, or just show that the…”
John Coogan Feb 20, 2026 ▶ 0:55 The SaaSpocalypse is Cancelled, WB Back in Play, Zuck Grilled in LA Trial | Diet TBPN
Feb 24, 2026 bullish
Insight
Coogan: Open-source SaaS alternatives have existed for decades without gaining adoption
“There's this whole idea that, like, you'll be able to build your own, like, CRM or your own ERP and vibe code it, and open source CRMs exist. There's one called Sweet CRM, there's Odo, there's ERP Next. Like, there are open source alternatives to Almost every …”
John Coogan Feb 24, 2026 ▶ 9:08 Kim K's New Energy Drink, Citrini Discourse Rages On, the $100B Meta-AMD Deal | Diet TBPN
Feb 25, 2026 bullish
Insight
Coogan: History of open source suggests vibe coding will not kill SaaS
“Open source has always been this like pressure on SaaS, And it's always withstood that, and like, yeah, maybe, like, if you can just prompt it, and it feels like emailing your SaaS provider to reconfigure things, like, that is a real pressure, but I think it's…”
John Coogan Feb 25, 2026 ▶ 12:26 What The Citrini Selloff Says About the Stock Market
Mar 19, 2026 bullish
Insight
Cuban: Vertical AI Agents Will Replace Traditional SaaS Business Models
“Once you figure out how to do agents, then you can do them a little better than most other people, and then you can turn that into what would have been a SaaS business in the past, is now, you know, we'll create your own marketing team, and we'll, you know, do…”
Mark Cuban Mar 19, 2026 ▶ 2:49 FULL INTERVIEW: Mark Cuban on Robots, AI, Self-Driving, and Advice to Students
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