Moonshot AI

includes Moonshot AI Kimi

3 statements across 2 episodes · 2 bullish · 1 bearish · 2 people on the record · first statement Jul 20, 2026 by John Coogan · said 25 times in 9 episodes since 2026 · across every show →

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Jul 20, 2026 bullish
Opinion
Coogan: Kimi K3 invalidates the thesis that open-source AI trails closed models
“The headlines for Kimi are impressive, but not wildly surprising based on the current trend lines and model progress. But it does seem to invalidate Ah, the thesis that open source would start falling behind, which was something that was start, there was that …”
John Coogan Jul 20, 2026 ▶ 2:41 Kimi K3 Reactions, The Odyssey Hits $264M in Debut, Netflix Embraces AI | Diet TBPN
Jul 20, 2026 positive
Opinion
Coogan: Kimi K3's Cyber Capability Refutes Pure Distillation Claims
“And it's also sort of a refutation of like the, it's just distilled because the models that you would be distilling from are pretty severely nerfed on cybersecurity, at least in theory. And so it's like, you would need to distill on the non the non nerfed mode…”
John Coogan Jul 20, 2026 ▶ 15:55 Kimi K3 Reactions, The Odyssey Hits $264M in Debut, Netflix Embraces AI | Diet TBPN
Jul 23, 2026 negative
Opinion
Meta loses to Chinese AI labs because lawsuit fears block distillation
“Moonshot and Meta are in competition and they both open source things at various times and they have APIs and there's all the different businesses. And one is fighting with one arm tied behind his back because Meta can't do distillation because they'll get sue…”
Jordi Hays Jul 23, 2026 ▶ 23:06 AI Agents Hack Hugging Face, White House Promotes Science’s Golden Age | Diet TBPN
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